Would you rather the kitty be given back to the shelter?
Rock&Fluff’smom - I expected this, but I did it anyway. I’m not a stupid woman.
Would you rather I not declaw her and resent getting her? Or maybe you’d rather I pass her back to the shelter? (not that I would)
What REAL option do you suggest? Hmm?
maybe offer her to a home with a person who would not take away what is meant to be…this is what I suggest…why get a cat if it is eventually going to be a maimed cat.
I just believe…Claws belong on paws!!!
Hmmm, I don’t like the sound of this…
I hope you aren’t pro- life.
not
If it rhymes it must be true!
(Sorry about that last post…dont’ know what happened.)
Ahh, the Pit. I’ve been waiting for this.
Rock&Fluff’smom and Arcana: What in the flying FUCK is wrong with you? Can you just not read? Lady Venom has repeatedly said that this is A LAST FUCKING RESORT. She doesn’t want to do it either, but she’s no other options. Also, as others have pointed out in numerous posts, she is talking about laser declawing, which, by several accounts is less painful and damaging than traditional declawing. She is just trying to do the best for her family while being considerate of the cat’s discomfort. I guess a little fucking human understanding is a bit too much to expect, yes?
Lady Venom, I’m sorry to hear that you have to do this. I’m not a big fan of declawing myself, but sometimes these things are unavoidable. Don’t feel too guilty; she’ll be fine after a few days. And don’t let the assholes get you down; keep us updated on how she does.
On preview: I have evidently wasted my time on you, Rock&Fluff’smom. You haven’t read anything in this thread except ‘declaw’, and you refuse to stop foaming at the mouth about it. Please go and fuck yourself with a rusty wire brush.
After a quick google search, I applaud your choice Lady Venom. The laser appears much less invasive and painful, as well as less recuperative time afterwards than the traditional method. I know you had to have agonized over this decision and I wish you and your amazing kitty a speedy recovery. Kudos for getting the kitty from the shelter in the first place.
Rock&Fluff’smom, your stance has been noted, now please stop berating LV. You’re against it, we got it.
I get that. Got any other points you’d like to make? Make sure they’re very carefully worded, though, now that this thread’s in the Pit.
Lady Venom: Please don’t feel guilty. I understand where you’re coming from. I had to declaw one of my cats several years ago. She was impossible. She’s 17 now perfectly happy. Her 9 year old companion cat doesn’t claw anything–never has. He still has his claws. They get along great, pretend fight all the time, no problems. He keeps his claws sheathed when they play.
I’m really psyched to hear that they have a laser procedure now. The old procedure was pretty nasty. I’ve had cats all of my life and only 2 have ever had to be declawed–they were just beyond training. It happens sometimes. Please don’t feel bad about it.
Lady Venom, please do not regret posting this. You asked, clearly for what you wanted in the OP and some people ignored you.
Do the same and ignore them.
Big hugs, girlfriend. Hug the kitty for me. 
I really hate to get in the middle of this topic, but this is the part of the debate that I just don’t get.
How can we be so concerned about what was “meant to be” when we’ve taken these animals and totally domesticated them to suit our purposes to the point where they would never last in the wild, where things really were meant to be?
Dogs were never meant to wear collars or leashes; cats were never meant to lap water from a bowl by the sink; rodents were never meant to run endless circles in steel exercise wheels. It seems a little dishonest to use this argument at this point. What was “meant to be” is long, long gone by now.
Congratulations, Lady Venom, for doing what is best for you and your cat, considering the circumstances.
You have made a difficult decision, but you have reached it fairly. Your cat will be fine, in the long run. We have 4 cats, 3 of which are declawed. Why? Well they came that way from the pound. But when Boy’s claws started to grow back and became nastily infected, we didn’t hesitate to have him re-declawed. These are house pets - and judging by the rat and lizard carcasses (and by the way the dog respects them now) they are all capable of protecting themselves. The 1 with claws? never uses them on others just on 1 particular old chair. Seemed like a fair trade.
Anyone who does not understand how hard it was for you to make this decision, and who instead suggest you abandon your pet rather than declaw it, are idiots. Don’t waste anymore of your time on them.
Ah - the pit.
Rock&Fluff’smom - you’re being a nasty, insensitive bitch.
A poster has started an OP in MPSIMS about feeling about about getting a medical procedure done to her pet that she’s feeling guilty about and you use it as an opportunity to spew forth your political opinion. It’s a nasty bitchy thing to do.
Lady Venom didn’t post a debate. She didn’t post a rant. She posted as a concerned pet owner looking for support. I felt terrible when I got my rabbits de-nut-ified, but the fact that they were spraying piss all over my house didn’t leave me much choice. Had I posted a thread about feeling bad, I sure as hell wouldn’t need some jerk ranting about how “getting your pets fixed is WRONG. Nya, nya, nya.”
You were very, very mean.
Thanks for all the support guys. It means a lot to me. I respect the views of those who do not agree with declawing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Never once did I say that I was not against declawing. I would rather not have to do this. Aries is my 3rd cat, the previous 2 were not declawed because they didn’t need to be. They didn’t use them. Giving her up is NOT an option. Pets, in my eyes, are NOT recyclable. I gave her a home when she did not have one.
I opted for the more expensive laser because of faster recovery times, less blood loss, less swelling and easier aftercare. Instead of a 4 night stay for spay & declaw she’ll be home Saturday.
While you do have somewhat of a point (domesticating animals isn’t entirely natural to begin with), I really don’t believe that a domesticated cat wouldn’t survive if abandoned in the wild per se. Sure, some environments would be tougher than others, mainly ones where lots of natural enimies exist. But I’ve seen plenty of former domesticated cats who did quite nicely for themselves in the wild, in the Dutch countryside. Granted, they used to be semi-domesticated on a farm, but when you stop feeding them, they will hunt, even though they’ve been used to a water and food bowl all their lives.
Not trying to make Lady venom feel guilty, but i really believe declawing is a bad thing from personal experience. I had a cat, named Kiwi that was declawed. She was an indoor cat, so it was never an issue of protection. But one day she ran out, and just as my dad went to get her a dog came and attacked her. She didn’t have a chance, even with my dad hitting the dog with a iron bar. she tried to claw him but she couldn’t. THAT is why I will never have another cat declawed. So I hope that LAdy Venom can really insure that the cat stays indoors.
Deadly Nightlight - If your dad hitting the dog with an IRON BAR did nothing to get it off the cat, I highly doubt the cat clawing at it would have done much good.
I can assure my cat will NEVER get out. I have 8 foot fences around my yard, that go right down to the ground. When she is out in the yard, it’s supervised and on a harness. My front door has a door to the voyer which is always closed, so even if she got into the voyer, she wouldn’t have access to outside. The windows all have secure locks on them. IF she got out, the only place in the front to go is the front yard.
So, in your world, 1/4 inch claws are far greater than a man wielding an iron bar? What are you smoking and where can I get some?
Lady Venom, I’ve had cats all my life. Three cats ago, I had my cat declawed. It was a tough decision for me but about 24 hours after it was over, she (the cat) was fine. And this was the old type of declawing.