# Feistymongol, you racist jerk! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 22, 2002, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367 "2002-12-22T11:08:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/241 "2002-12-24T21:40:33Z")
Oh, so now he wants to join the military, eh? 😃 You really want to put words in his mouth just so you can interpret what he “says” how you want to. I guess that what he gets for even daring to be Asian and speaking out against your oppression. Of course, the military is also called the “service” and that’s about the only acceptable things Asians can do in this country–serve. There ALL of you WHITE people go pigeonholing him again.:rolleyes: 😛 😛 😛 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/242 "2002-12-24T21:47:05Z")
Oh, that’s just as much bullshit as Feisty’s been spouting, Czech. I was using that as an example of how one large sector of the society considers his racist comments. ---
**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/243 "2002-12-24T21:56:29Z")
I know. Note the “😛 😛 😛 :p” Shoulda put a disclaimer, sorry. I wasn’t tongue-in-cheek enough. Was that tongue in cheek? ---
**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/244 "2002-12-24T22:00:13Z")
I should also point out that Feisty most likely doesn’t care what people in the military think of his attitude. You must remember that he doesn’t think anything he says is racist–just “misunderstood.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/245 "2002-12-24T22:22:38Z")
Whoops, CzechMaster. Pardon me a moment whilst I go slap myself upside the head and mutter “Wow, I was whooshed but good!” Okay, I’m back. I bet you’re right that he doesn’t have much consideration for what anyone in the military has to say. If they’re White, they’re oppressors. If they’re Asian, then they’re just acting White and thus are also oppressors, but White oppressors. ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/246 "2002-12-25T00:25:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*Whoops, CzechMaster. Pardon me a moment whilst I go slap myself upside the head and mutter “Wow, I was whooshed but good!” \*\* Yeah, some whiteys just don’t know good sarcasm when they see it. 😛 [sub]\<— Monty, note this[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/247 "2002-12-25T01:57:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*Hmmm, Feisty forgot to mention 2 million dead Cambodians. As far as I can tell, that was strictly local. \*\* 2 million cambodians dead from Pol Pot regime pales in comparison with the below events inflicted by whites on other races. The destruction wrought from white nations in history Nazi Regime -estimated 10-15 million total died in Germany alone (including 6 million jews and soldiers/civillians through conflicts) Stalin’s communist era estimated 61 million dead under Stalinist rule and the resulting communist regimes. Destruction of Vietnam 1-2 million mostly civillians. Bombing villages and civillian cities. America kept running military death tallies as “proof” that they were winning the war. The continent of Africa - Possibly 100 million or more people dead throughout its wretched history as a result of colonial contact with europeans. Different policies throughout the ages and divide/conquer colonial policies have resulted in the deaths of countless others. Aztecs - Entire civilization and people wiped off the map. No estimation on figures. Possibly millions. Phillipine islands - Early imperialist policies resulting in the slaughter of Filipino native forces who resisted U.S. occupation. No exact figure on number massacred. China- Opium wars and colonialist invasion with the resulting famines. Possibly millions dead as a result of British policies. South America- Untold number of civilizations and indians plundered and wiped out. Native Americans - It was estimated there were 7 million native americans scattered throughout the north american continent before european arrival. Now there’s maybe a few thousand traceable native americans left. Aborigines in Australia - Tens of thousands murdered, untold number of Maori tribesman killed too. The Middle east - Early colonialist policies were designed to fracture the delicate politics and relations of the people in the mid east. All this was done so early colonialists could plunder oil and enforce unfair treaties. Untold numbers dead or suffering to this day because of it. The hasty drawn borders in the mid-east and the resulting conflicts can be directly blamed on white expansion. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/248 "2002-12-25T02:01:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shodan \* > \*\*You are contradicting yourself (color me shocked). > > You cite Nazi Germany as an example of racist mass murder. But the murders committed by Tibetans, Manchurians and so forth, you dismiss because they are “intraracial”. \*\* Pales in comparison to the mass murdering and genocide committed by whites over the years. [/QUOTE] \*\* Are you claiming that Jews, Gypsies, gays, Catholics, and Slavs are different _races_ from the Germans? As a certain demented paperhanger claimed? [/QUOTE] \*\* Gypsies originally came from India, so they aren’t actually european. Many jews often have mixed ethnic blood aside from european. > [@](#): > > \*\* > You can’t have it both ways. If all Asians are the same race, and therefore their atrocities don’t count, then all whites are the same race too, and you can’t use Stalin as a counter-argument to Mao,and Pol Pot. \*\* If you want to bring up Mao then i’ll bring up Stalin. Tit for tat. I’m not the one who started trying to edge Mao into the argument. > [@](#): > > \*\* > Or actually, you can _try_, but you will bog down in racism’s usual internal inconsistencies. > > Or claim you were quoted out of context. It doesn’t seem to be working for you very well, but perhaps if you keep trying… > > Regards, > Shodan \*\* Whites have inflicted more death and destruction on other races than asians have and that’s a fact. The destruction wrought from white nations in history Nazi Regime -estimated 10-15 million total died in Germany alone (including 6 million jews and soldiers/civillians through conflicts) Stalin’s communist era estimated 61 million dead under Stalinist rule and the resulting communist regimes. Destruction of Vietnam 1-2 million mostly civillians. Bombing villages and civillian cities. America kept running military death tallies as “proof” that they were winning the war. The continent of Africa - Possibly 100 million or more people dead throughout its wretched history as a result of colonial contact with europeans. Different policies throughout the ages and divide/conquer colonial policies have resulted in the deaths of countless others. Aztecs - Entire civilization and people wiped off the map. No estimation on figures. Possibly millions. Phillipine islands - Early imperialist policies resulting in the slaughter of Filipino native forces who resisted U.S. occupation. No exact figure on number massacred. China- Opium wars and colonialist invasion with the resulting famines. Possibly millions dead as a result of British policies. South America- Untold number of civilizations and indians plundered and wiped out. Native Americans - It was estimated there were 7 million native americans scattered throughout the north american continent before european arrival. Now there’s maybe a few thousand traceable native americans left. Aborigines in Australia - Tens of thousands murdered, untold number of Maori tribesman killed too. The Middle east - Early colonialist policies were designed to fracture the delicate politics and relations of the people in the mid east. All this was done so early colonialists could plunder oil and enforce unfair treaties. Untold numbers dead or suffering to this day because of it. The hasty drawn borders in the mid-east and the resulting conflicts can be directly blamed on white expansion. ---
**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/249 "2002-12-25T02:14:49Z")
From whites are all racist to whites are all mass murderers. So you’re apparently preaching some kind of holy writ here now. If we all were to suddenly agree with you, what would that entail? Turning our “authority” over to you? Begging your forgiveness so you can deny it? Listening to a sermon? Getting into a furnace, perhaps? You truly are a fuckwit. The best part of saying that is you’ll use it to discredit me and then use a similar phrase yourself. It’s vintage you (read: asshole). ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/250 "2002-12-25T02:33:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*Okay. So, Feisty, why didn’t you learn from your stint in jail? Or did the evil White judge let you off with a fine? Did you luck out and get a misdemeanor conviction or are you well on your way to the infamous three-strikes hotel? \*\* Actually the judge was hispanic and I only got community service and had to pay a fine. Even though it was considered aggravated asault there was provocation involved. You can guess what the provocation was and I wasn’t the one doing the provoking. Luckily I had a good lawyer who pretty much bargained it down to almost nothing since it was my first offense. If it happens again next time I think i’ll just police the evidence and then leave the scene. It’s funny how all of you point this out to try to make me look like some kind of violent criminal. Where were you when Vincent Chin got beat to death by 2 white factory workers who were later acquitted by an all white jury? I think you probably didn’t even glance twice at that situation since it was just an “oriental” getting beat to death in your eyes. > [@](#): > > \*\* > BTW, you might consider yourself to be Overseas Chinese (I base that from your comment about the homeland), but checking over the website of the consulate of the People’s Republic of China, I discovered that they don’t appear to consider you as Chinese. For one thing, there’s no English translation provided for the Overseas Chinese Affairs page and thus you’re screwed if you don’t read Chinese. Does that mean the entire country of China is “acting White” or, just maybe, you’re wrong and racist yourself? \*\* That’s nice you assume all these things but who says i’d be going to the PRC? Though I do admire Dr. Tsien Hsue-shen an Asian-american scientist who was accused by the racist white American government of being a communist and ostracized. He was later forcefully deported to China where he single handedly developed the PRC’s nuclear program. A great man indeed, shows how America’s racism worked against it. > [@](#): > > \*\* > A further note about your conviction: From my experience in processing visa applications, consulates are extremely (to the point of mono-mania oft-times) interested in an applicant’s criminal record. > \*\* I’ve never had a problem obtaining a business or tourist visa to any country so far. Also, i’m sure there’s a lot more people than me who live abroad who have had worse records. Actually, i’m sure of it. > [@](#): > > \*\* > But just for sheer entertainment, let’s just pretend the Deputy Consul screws up and grants you a visa to immigrate to the PRC (and said DC doesn’t lose his job for said screw-up). What’re you going to do there? Do you have relatives that won’t be ashamed to have a criminal in the family residing with them? > \*\* Actually most of my family knows what the situation was about it was no big secret. None of them particularly care about my business. But thanks for creating all these unlikely and fictitious scenarios they’re amusing to read. > [@](#): > > \*\* > What’re you going to do to put food on the table and to pay the rent? Do you have any skills? Of course, you can discount anything remotely clerical since you can’t read and write. \*\* Now these assumptions are just comical. Yes, I have a college degree and FYI i’ve found work in HK (for a multinational corp) before with not too much difficulty. You see my relatives have lots of business references 🙂 strike two for your worst case scenario assumptions. Even in the worst case scenario i’d just go work for my relatives, without getting into too many details one owns a substantially large business overseas and has offered me a job since I graduated. > [@](#): > > \*\* > BTW, it’s extremely easy to go overseas from the United States and renounce your citizenship. I even saw one lady renounce hers whilst she was visiting friends in Tokyo. \*\* Guess what, I wouldn’t renounce my U.S. citizenship i’d use it to my economic advantage. Besides my reason for not leaving is due to family related responsibilities. It’s not as simple as buying a ticket like i’ve said before. > [@](#): > > \*\* > How well do you think she fits into that society after being gone for 40 years? \*\* Totally different scenario. I wouldn’t be renouncing anything because i’d still want to be able to visit various family members living in the U.S. without hassle. > [@](#): > > \*\* > Now let me tell you what’s going to happen to you if you decide to stay in the United States and for some odd reason the military screws up and lets you enlist. \*\* I think the last thing i’d ever do is join the U.S. military. I don’t believe in bombing innocent civillian villages and going on conquests for oil. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/251 "2002-12-25T02:37:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CzechMaster401k \* > \*\* > The best part of saying that is you’ll use it to discredit me and then use a similar phrase yourself. It’s vintage you (read: asshole). \*\* _giggle_ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RobertTB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@RobertTB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobertTB)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/252 "2002-12-25T02:41:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > \*\*…Even though it was considered aggravated asault there was provocation involved. \*\* Not an uncommon punishment for indecent exposure, a far more likely crime for a whiner like you then assault. Unless it was a senior citizen you claim to have smacked up, I find it hard to believe that a squirmy little fellah like you cracked anybodies skull open. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/253 "2002-12-25T02:48:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mehitabel \* > \*\* > > [Sad tale of woe snipped] > > **Feistymongrel** maybe should reconsider some of the incidents that he says he was involved in. If there’s a fight, and people start yelling shit at you that includes racial epithets, well of course they’re wronger than wrong. But in the heat of “battle”, you might be attacking with your mouth too and part of that is insults, and if the guy is another race it might be easy to slip that into the arsenal without having a KKK card in your wallet. \*\* Your dad’s tale of “misfortune” does not apply to the situation which happened with me. Someone provoked me and then the “aggravated assault” occurred. I actually didn’t say much to him at all which is why the whole thing got pled down to almost nothing. > [@](#): > > \*\* > And it’s not that nonwhite people don’t sling these words around against other nonwhites when the chips are down either. No, again it’s not right and nobody shouldn’t do it and it’s insensitive, blah blah blah. But somebody calling you a gook after you’ve kicked in his car door doesn’t make you Vincent Chin. \*\* You assume I go around kicking people’s car doors in and AFTERWARDS they call me racist names? what kind of idiotic assumption is this? I don’t just go around and fuck people up when they look at me funny or without good reason. All the confrontations i’ve been in have been when someone has done the provoking first. Nice twisting of the argument to make me look like i’m just going around assaulting innocent white people on a whim. Some of you guys are so predictable, no wonder those two white factor workers got acquitted for murdering Vincent Chin. I bet they thought Vincent was guilty in that scenario too even though he got beat to death. > [@](#): > > \*\* > And oh yeah, Dad’s brother went to the Pacific to fight against Asians–the Japanese that were occupying the island of Guam, which was and is part of our country. How dare he! And the poor deluded fools celebrate ‘Liberation Day’ every July, not knowing they were far better off under the benevolent rule of their fellow Asians. \*\* I don’t believe i’ve ever supported pro-japanese imperialism before. Matter of fact in one of my arguments I specifically stipulated that at one point in history the Japanese absorbed colonialist thought and the whole dogma behind race superiority. They thought they were descendants of their emperor and mimicked early British empire colonization actions. That was a long time ago and only a very brief period in Japanese history however. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/254 "2002-12-25T02:50:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RobertTB \* > \*\*Not an uncommon punishment for indecent exposure, a far more likely crime for a whiner like you then assault. Unless it was a senior citizen you claim to have smacked up, I find it hard to believe that a squirmy little fellah like you cracked anybodies skull open. \*\* Awww is poor baby mad I exacted some much needed justice on some racist prick? FYI, the guy in his early 20’s and i’m not small either 🙂 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RobertTB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@RobertTB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobertTB)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/255 "2002-12-25T02:53:51Z")
Sure you did, kid. Sure. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/256 "2002-12-25T02:56:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RobertTB \* > \*\*Sure you did, kid. Sure. \*\* Whatever, you’re a chump. I bet you’d like to see some asians get beat down or verbally denigrated without any recourse now wouldn’t you? Might just find a shiv in your back if you underestimate the wrong “squirmy little asian” on the street. ---
**Author:** ![RobertTB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@RobertTB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobertTB)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/257 "2002-12-25T02:58:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > \*\*Whatever, you’re a chump. I bet you’d like to see some asians get beat down or verbally denigrated without any recourse now wouldn’t you? Might just find a shiv in your back if you underestimate the wrong “squirmy little asian” on the street. \*\* I am not suprised at all that you would stab someone in the back. Typical of a coward. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/258 "2002-12-25T03:01:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RobertTB \* > \*\*I am not suprised at all that you would stab someone in the back. Typical of a coward. \*\* Who says I would?! 😉 Believe me if it was me you’re trying to physically harm you would see it coming and there’s nothing you could do about it. ---
**Author:** ![RobertTB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@RobertTB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobertTB)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/259 "2002-12-25T03:04:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > \*\*Who says I would?! 😉 > > Believe me if it was me you’re trying to physically harm you would see it coming and there’s nothing you could do about it. \*\* Are you serious? You sound like a 14 year old kiddie now. Emtpy threats made on a BBS are pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/260 "2002-12-25T03:07:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RobertTB \* > \*\*Are you serious? You sound like a 14 year old kiddie now. Emtpy threats made on a BBS are pathetic. \*\* Who was making the threat? I was merely postulating what would happen if someone tried to come after me in real life. Like I said I react and I don’t act without first being provoked or physically threatened. I’m well within my right to defend myself if that situation were to ever come about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367.md?page=14)