# Feistymongol, you racist jerk! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 22, 2002, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367 "2002-12-22T11:08:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![DarkJudicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@DarkJudicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkJudicator)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/261 "2002-12-25T03:33:11Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s hilarious how this double standard works. **A white guy can make a dozen posts about how foreigners are this and that and generalize with about a million stereotypes and noone will make a peep. As soon as an asian person says something the whole world comes crashing down in an agitated dogpile.** > [@](#): > > \*\*Where have I stated that white Americans are all out to get me?[b/] I did mention a few times that it seems much of the prejudice i’ve experienced has originated from mostly whites in the U.S. How would that be patently false? Whites make up the majority of the population so it’s entirely believable that most of the racism i’ve experienced has come from that direction. If you interpret that as some kind of tin foil hat paranoia towards all white people then obviously you misread it. Or maybe you’re inserting your own arguments from out of context quotes you keep insisting on using to ham it up for the forum. Every time someone tries to argue anything with you logically, you TURN IT INTO a point about race. This is why people are getting pissed off with you. And yes, that DOES come across as tinfoil hat paranoia, when nobody can say ANYTHING to you without you cramming it into your power dynamic worldview. Don’t think for a second I’m saying prejudice doesn’t exist, that racism isn’t a huge problem. For sure, you’ve encountered many, many racist arseholes in your time - and I’m sure many of them were white. But one, or a hundred, or a thousand racist jerks do not speak for all white people any more than Hitler did (hey, he called Godwin first guys, not me!). All it proves is that there’s a lot of intolerant morons in the world who hate anybody different from themselves. Becoming an intolerant moron who hates anybody different from yourself is not the way to solve it. People who go around LOOKING for persecution where none exists contribute to the problem, not the solution. But that’s okay, you’ll just ignore me or dismiss me because I’m either not Asian or if I am Asian, I’ve sold out, right? And of course, you’re the only one who’s allowed to spend this entire thread fighting strawmen, while accusing everyone else of it. Because I don’t agree with you. And you’re right. You just need to convince the rest of the world. > [@](#): > > _Posted by Doghouse Reilly:_ > I can’t see how any of that is possibly relavent, Feistyretard, unless you are arguing that white people are intrinsically evil as a race and you’re therefore justified in hating and mistrusting such people that you encounter in everyday life. That, **DR** , seems to be the core of his entire argument. ---
**Author:** ![DarkJudicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@DarkJudicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkJudicator)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/262 "2002-12-25T03:35:04Z")
WOW, that was a shitty coding job. Apologies, all. ---
**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/263 "2002-12-25T03:37:34Z")
I would wager that the roots of your angst go as far back as your birth, where, as a newborn, you “kicked in the head” of the obstetrician because he was white and you thought the slap on the ass was racially motivated. …but you’ll never admit that because I’m cutting to the heart of the matter. You’re gonna get banned pretty soon, and the chip on your shoulder is so large that it blocks out everything you don’t want to see. That said, fuck you in the eye, cuntslag. _giggle_ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/264 "2002-12-25T03:51:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CzechMaster401k \* > \*\* > You’re gonna get banned pretty soon, and the chip on your shoulder is so large that it blocks out everything you don’t want to see. > > That said, fuck you in the eye, cuntslag. > > _giggle_ 😛 \*\* Frankly this is about what I expected. I wouldn’t be surprised or angry at all if I was banned because I came here expecting the truth to be censored as soon as possible. The fact is none of you can handle any point of view beyond your socially protected myopic version of events. Once someone comes in and shatters that little snow globe people get nervous and want to suppress the truth. ---
**Author:** ![OxyMoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9a140/32.png) [@OxyMoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OxyMoron)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/265 "2002-12-25T04:02:59Z")
Couldn’t we have a category other than “BANNED”? Couldn’t we just let him keep posting, with the tag: “Hopeless” or “Lost Cause”? ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/266 "2002-12-25T04:04:33Z")
**Feistymongol** , let me first congratulate you on taking on the monumental task of battling against the posters in this thread. It has been a very interesting read. The majority of posters on this board are white. Want proof? Check the racial breakdown of the population here in the US then extrapolate. The old “How do you know most of the posters are white?” is a typical ploy used here. My experience is that some of the white people on this board are uncomfortable discussing racial issues, and some of them are racist, that’s to be expected, the population here reflects that of the population at large. One problem that I have with this board is that the “pitting” zeal isn’t as great when it comes to the white racists, or so it appears to me. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’ve observed. I don’t know if people here know about the Vincent Chin story, but I saw or heard the documentary on it and was sickened by the story, though not suprised by the outcome. The value of white life seems to be greater than that of any other in this country. ---
**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/267 "2002-12-25T04:12:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > \*\*Frankly this is about what I expected. I wouldn’t be surprised or angry at all if I was banned because I came here expecting the truth to be censored as soon as possible. The fact is none of you can handle any point of view beyond your socially protected myopic version of events. Once someone comes in and shatters that little snow globe people get nervous and want to suppress the truth. \*\* Yeah, your response is what I expected too. Your increasing resistance to and disregard for anything your perceived “white” people say to you only shows that we’re on to something here and that you fear the truth. _giggle_ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/268 "2002-12-25T04:33:23Z")
> [@](#): > > One problem that I have with this board is that the “pitting” zeal isn’t as great when it comes to the white racists, or so it appears to me. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’ve observed. Thjis suggests, to me, that you don’t pay much attention to who gets pitted around here. MarkSerlin, (and his entire cohort of buddies from central Florida), Wildest Bill, Sweet Willy, just about all the recent visitors from the National Alliance. I cannot remember a white racist who was _not_ pitted–to say nothing of people who are probably not racist, but simply hold political views that are contrary to some views toward race relations. **Feistymongol** probably has a few valid points, buit his sweeping generalizations (many of them patently in error), combined with his overt hostility toward any view that does not slavishly follow his warped perception of the world, simply means that he is promoting ignorance. We have watched his white soulmates come and go; we won’t really miss him. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/269 "2002-12-25T05:59:10Z")
This guy is still here? At least i got some good laughs. ---
**Author:** ![ctr22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@ctr22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctr22)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/270 "2002-12-25T06:34:09Z")
I wondered how long it would take Easyphil to come in here and spout his usual nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/271 "2002-12-25T10:38:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \* > \*\ ***Feistymongol** , let me first congratulate you on taking on the monumental task of battling against the posters in this thread. It has been a very interesting read. > > The majority of posters on this board are white. Want proof? Check the racial breakdown of the population here in the US then extrapolate. The old “How do you know most of the posters are white?” is a typical ploy used here. \*\* I too have drawn pretty much the same conclusions as to what “racial” makeup SDB is made up of. I wasn’t at all surprised that I was attacked the way I was. It seems they all rallied against me right away without even seriously trying to debate. The few that made attempts drew up facetious arguments and twisted my quotes every which way to gain a moral “high” ground. > [@](#): > > \*\* > My experience is that some of the white people on this board are uncomfortable discussing racial issues, and some of them are racist, that’s to be expected, the population here reflects that of the population at large. One problem that I have with this board is that the “pitting” zeal isn’t as great when it comes to the white racists, or so it appears to me. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’ve observed. \*\* It’s funny to see the difference in opinion when you go to a majority non white board and say the same things. I remember visiting an asian orientated forum and many people agreed with my viewpoints or had similar experiences in life. The same for a black orientated college forum I used to post on albeit their experiences were slightly different. It seems that whites don’t want to hear anything that implies that the white dominate society is even vaguely racist. Even pointing out real life anecdotal real life evidence is met with knee-jerk flaming and sarcasm. Noone wants to admit they just might be more “racist” than others. Noone wants personal responsibilities for anything that might make them look bad. > [@](#): > > \*\* > I don’t know if people here know about the Vincent Chin story, but I saw or heard the documentary on it and was sickened by the story, though not suprised by the outcome. The value of white life seems to be greater than that of any other in this country. \*\* Ditto. You never hear about whites bringing up issues about asians or other minorities getting beaten to death. The Vincent Chin story would have faded into obscurity if it weren’t for vigilant asian civil rights activists who lobbied to make it known. Even now justice has not been served. The two perpetrators will enjoy christmas while vincent chin is dead in his grave. Vincent’s mother left the U.S. years ago because she was so disillusioned with her son’s death and the unfair show trial the federal government held. I heard his mother already passed on fairly recently too. White life has always been regarded as higher in this country. You never hear about blacks getting murdered in the ghettos daily because it’s not considered “newsworthy” to the white mainstream. Yet, when some rich white millionaire’s daughter gets kidnapped it’s headline news. There’s a double standard in this society in all things political and social. It’s a caste system whether whites choose to acknowledge it or not. Just look at the billionaires that rule the world with an iron hand economically. Over 90% of them are of white descent, there does seem to be a system in place to keep wealth, power, and influence out of the hands of anyone not european or traditional “white” in this world. Of course you’ll occasionally see a token black, asian, or hispanic person in high areas of the government. However, these are “show” positions designed to hide the obvious caste system. I remember hearing estimates that the white population in the U.S. is around 78% but in government the power elite is something like 98% white. Are minorities who try to get into these positions less intelligent, resourceful, educated? Certainly not, yet they will never make that high of an ascension into American society because a system is in place to prevent it. There are still visible roadblocks, it’s true that America has ‘progressed’ but in some ways but the racism and good ole’ boys club has just gone underground. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/272 "2002-12-25T10:43:22Z")
So, Feisty, you don’t care for Whitey? ---
**Author:** ![Feistymongol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Feistymongol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feistymongol)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/273 "2002-12-25T10:44:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CzechMaster401k \* > \*\*Yeah, your response is what I expected too. Your increasing resistance to and disregard for anything your perceived “white” people say to you only shows that we’re on to something here and that you fear the truth. > > _giggle_ > 😛 \*\* I haven’t seen anything yet except facetious statements, strawman arguments, and lots of vitriol laced rhetoric. On top of that a massive lobby to get me banned. Woopty doo. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/274 "2002-12-25T10:56:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > \*\ ***It seems they all rallied against me right away without even seriously trying to debate. The few that made attempts drew up facetious arguments and twisted my quotes every which way to gain a moral “high” ground.** You haven’t seriously responded to any of my posts in multiple threads. I call you on your bullshit statements purporting to be “fact” about Asia when it was just some misinformed racist crap as bad as any white supremist propoganda ever put out and you don’t even bother to reply. Vincent Chin is a tragedy, and you’ll be hard pressed to find _anyone_ on this board that thinks otherwise. You’ll never believe that. You seem to think you’re the only person that has ever heard of Vincent Chin. Must sting when you get called a xiangjiao don’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/275 "2002-12-25T11:01:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > \*\*I haven’t seen anything yet except facetious statements, strawman arguments, and lots of vitriol laced rhetoric. On top of that a massive lobby to get me banned. Woopty doo. \*\* Okay, I’ll give it a shot. People kill people. This should be fairly obvious. The ability to kill people in really huge numbers requires sophisticated technology and/or willing killers. The number and variety of large-scale massacres through history should clearly demonstrate that no single racial/ethnic group is immune from the impulse to kill other groups. Now, you personally have been harassed by white people and you describe Asian individuals that have been murdered by whites. While this is related to the larger issue of mass murder (see above) it doesn’t prove that whites are more murderous than other ethnic groups. Actually, I’m not sure what point you were trying to make originally, since currently you’re only caught up in attacking other posters who are challenging you on your numerous incorrect facts. Of course, if you **want** a fight with the other posters, you’ve succeeded in getting one, and your observations on racism are now long forgotten. I personally am not advocating that you be banned, though I’ll chuckle mildly when it happens sooner or later when you’re no longer amusing and your behaviour becomes tiresome. By the way, I think you’re a schmuck. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/276 "2002-12-25T11:30:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > **…a massive lobby to get me banned.** **Feistymongol** did make a scoring point there. The “massive lobby” bit is exaggerated, but there’s been quite a bit of snickering “can’t wait till you get banned, then you’ll see who’s right” kind of comment. It’s a sort of “you \ don’t belong in our neighbourhood/country club” attitude. And given that **Feistymongol** is being accused of holding double standards, that sort of comment is not helpful to the argument. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/277 "2002-12-25T11:35:34Z")
You must’ve missed the “Captain Ed” saga, Phil. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/278 "2002-12-25T11:43:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > **Feistymongol** did make a scoring point there. The “massive lobby” bit is exaggerated, but there’s been quite a bit of snickering “can’t wait till you get banned, then you’ll see who’s right” kind of comment. > > It’s a sort of “you \ don’t belong in our neighbourhood/country club” attitude. I think our club could do with fewer idiots, myself, though I’m not encouraging the administrators to take action. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/279 "2002-12-25T12:14:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feistymongol \* > Actually the judge was hispanic and I only got community service and had to pay a fine. White Hispanic? So you got community service…did you learn anything at all about what constitutes a community? > [@](#): > > Even though it was considered aggravated asault there was provocation involved. You can guess what the provocation was and I wasn’t the one doing the provoking. Luckily I had a good lawyer who pretty much bargained it down to almost nothing since it was my first offense. You mean the first offense for which you got taken to court. > [@](#): > > If it happens again next time I think i’ll just police the evidence and then leave the scene. Or you could just do the responsible, adult thing and not assault someone. This may’ve escaped your notice, but the reason you got convicted is because there’s a law against aggravated assault. > [@](#): > > It’s funny how all of you point this out to try to make me look like some kind of violent criminal. Don’t have to try. You have, by your own admission, a record for a crime of violence; therefore, you are a violent criminal. And, again by your own admission, you don’t appear to have learned from that conviction. > [@](#): > > Where were you when Vincent Chin got beat to death by 2 white factory workers who were later acquitted by an all white jury? Mannheim, Germany. Couldn’t very well do much about something happening in Detroit. At any rate, your, shall we say, rather brief summation of the event doesn’t really pass muster. Check out [this site](http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~tanaka/vincent/vincent.txt) for what really happened. > [@](#): > > I think you probably didn’t even glance twice at that situation since it was just an “oriental” getting beat to death in your eyes. Incorrect. > [@](#): > > That’s nice you assume all these things but who says i’d be going to the PRC? Unless some miracle has happened in the last few hours and the government of Mainland China has changed, that’s still “the homeland” of China, isn’t it? > [@](#): > > Though I do admire Dr. Tsien Hsue-shen an Asian-american scientist who was accused by the racist white American government of being a communist and ostracized. 1. The government isn’t “racist White.” What we happen to have in this country is a representative government. 2. Well, according to [the Christian Science Monitor](http://csmweb2.emcweb.com/durable/2000/11/08/p1s4.htm), the Feds did have a case, albeit circumstantial. You might also want to come up for air and realize that a good number of Whites were also victimized by McCarthy. My handy Encarta encyclopedia has this to say about that particular scum: > [@](#): > > During the ensuing Senate investigations, which were widely publicized in the press and given nationwide radio and television coverage, McCarthy was cleared of the charges against him but was censured by the Senate for the methods he had used in his investigations and for his abuse of certain senators and Senate committees. His influence both in the Senate and on the national political scene diminished steadily thereafter, although he remained in the Senate until his death in Bethesda, Maryland, May 2, 1957. > [@](#): > > He was later forcefully deported to China where he single handedly developed the PRC’s nuclear program. Incorrect yet again. From the Christian Science Monitor site linked above about Tsien ( **bolding** mine): > [@](#): > > The US could deport Tsien, yet it didn’t, presumably because officials felt he knew too much. FBI agents shadowed him and his family. Eventually the pressure became unbearable. In early 1955, he escaped FBI surveillance and did something that in hindsight appears suspicious: He scribbled a note intended for the People’s Republic of China, asking for help leaving the US. > [@](#): > > A great man indeed, shows how America’s racism worked against it. You are aware, are you not, that we are now in the year 2002 AD? [quoteI’ve never had a problem obtaining a business or tourist visa to any country so far.[/quote] I was talking about immigrant visa. Different issue altogether. > [@](#): > > Also, i’m sure there’s a lot more people than me who live abroad who have had worse records. Actually, i’m sure of it. Got any stats? > [@](#): > > Actually most of my family knows what the situation was about it was no big secret. None of them particularly care about my business. But thanks for creating all these unlikely and fictitious scenarios they’re amusing to read. Do they know just your version or the court’s? > [@](#): > > Now these assumptions are just comical. Yes, I have a college degree and FYI i’ve found work in HK (for a multinational corp) before with not too much difficulty. You see my relatives have lots of business references 🙂 strike two for your worst case scenario assumptions. Even in the worst case scenario i’d just go work for my relatives, without getting into too many details one owns a substantially large business overseas and has offered me a job since I graduated. Still a different issue from immigrating. > [@](#): > > Guess what, I wouldn’t renounce my U.S. citizenship i’d use it to my economic advantage. Besides my reason for not leaving is due to family related responsibilities. It’s not as simple as buying a ticket like i’ve said before. & > [@](#): > > Totally different scenario. I wouldn’t be renouncing anything because i’d still want to be able to visit various family members living in the U.S. without hassle. Well, since you’re remaining a US citizen, then that means you’ll not be immigrating to “the homeland.” Kind of goes against your “if I would” comment above. > [@](#): > > I think the last thing i’d ever do is join the U.S. military. I don’t believe in bombing innocent civillian villages and going on conquests for oil. Nice to see you learned nothing about the military. This comment of yours is just more prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367/280 "2002-12-25T12:17:26Z")
\ Forgot to put in the bolding. Let’s try that one again: From the Christian Science Monitor site linked above about Tsien (bolding mine): > [@](#): > > The US could deport Tsien, yet it didn’t, presumably because officials felt he knew too much. FBI agents shadowed him and his family. Eventually the pressure became unbearable. In early 1955, he escaped FBI surveillance and did something that in hindsight appears suspicious: **He scribbled a note intended for the People’s Republic of China, asking for help leaving the US.** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feistymongol-you-racist-jerk/144367.md?page=15)