# Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin indicted in Ivy League bribery scheme **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 12, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001 "2019-03-12T15:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/221 "2019-03-15T03:33:23Z")
Both of Loughlin’s daughters have dropped out of USC. > **[Lori Loughlin's Daughters Olivia Jade and Isabella Giannulli Are Reportedly...](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/lori-loughlins-daughters-olivia-jade-221700968.html)** > > Olivia in particular is said to be "a mess, despondent and feeling like it's the end of the world." ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/222 "2019-03-15T04:57:55Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > While we’re all taking a certain pleasure from Lori Laughlin being hung out to dry, remember that Felicity Huffman [just wrapped production on an indie film](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9386648/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1) that’s critical to Amy Jo Johnson’s attempt to shift from over-the-hill Power Ranger to serious director. AFAICT the film hasn’t found a distributor yet, and not being able to get the film out could derail Johnson’s career. That’s some serious collateral damage. Unfortunately that happens a lot. Kevin Spacey’s last film was at least OK by accounts and had a good cast. It was already in the can but the company killed it. They released it in theaters probably because they had to by contract. With zero marketing and a quick exit it made a couple hundred bucks. Most people probably don’t even know it exist. No sympathy for Spacey of course but there are 105 people listed in the cast alone. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/223 "2019-03-15T14:17:56Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > There was also a du Pont athletic facility, but from long before she got there. I’ve heard that tactics is taking flowers to your first date with a girl, whereas strategy is sending her flowers three days before your first date. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/224 "2019-03-15T14:26:52Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Unfortunately that happens a lot. Kevin Spacey’s last film was at least OK by accounts and had a good cast. It was already in the can but the company killed it. They released it in theaters probably because they had to by contract. With zero marketing and a quick exit it made a couple hundred bucks. Most people probably don’t even know it exist. No sympathy for Spacey of course but there are 105 people listed in the cast alone. When push comes to shove it is quite rare in Hollywood for anyone to give a rat’s ass about anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/225 "2019-03-15T16:02:03Z")
Loughlin has been fired from _Fuller House_, too. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/226 "2019-03-15T16:46:55Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Both of Loughlin’s daughters have dropped out of USC. > > [Lori Loughlin's Daughters Olivia Jade and Isabella Giannulli Are Reportedly Withdrawing From USC](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/lori-loughlins-daughters-olivia-jade-221700968.html) I’m imagining the daughters’ reaction is the reaction that Homer has after Monty Burns insists he step down as head of the union in order to get the dental plan. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/227 "2019-03-15T16:49:21Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > When push comes to shove it is quite rare in Hollywood for anyone to give a rat’s ass about anyone else. I don’t think it’s a matter of not caring. I’m sure everyone involved wanted to make money off of it. But the producers knew that if they tried to distribute and market the film they would be crucified in the press and on social media and still lose money. It was a no win situation for everyone involved. On the other hand they could have listened to the decades worth of stories and not hired him in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/228 "2019-03-15T17:05:46Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I don’t think it’s a matter of not caring. I’m sure everyone involved wanted to make money off of it. But the producers knew that if they tried to distribute and market the film they would be crucified in the press and on social media and still lose money. It was a no win situation for everyone involved. > > On the other hand they could have listened to the decades worth of stories and not hired him in the first place. Mainly I meant the stars, Loughlin, Huffman, but in Spacey’s case the producers are questionable. This is no surprise in Hollywood, productions shut down in a hurry all the time, it’s not like a business going under that tries to struggle through for a while, shows get cancelled, ba-bam!, it all shuts down overnight. So all the people who are out of work knew there was a chance of this for some reason or another. But I doubt these stars and producers thought for a moment about the effect of crimes being revealed. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/229 "2019-03-15T17:19:30Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Mainly I meant the stars, Loughlin, Huffman, but in Spacey’s case the producers are questionable. > > This is no surprise in Hollywood, productions shut down in a hurry all the time, it’s not like a business going under that tries to struggle through for a while, shows get cancelled, ba-bam!, it all shuts down overnight. So all the people who are out of work knew there was a chance of this for some reason or another. But I doubt these stars and producers thought for a moment about the effect of crimes being revealed. I’ll actually defend Loughlin and Huffman a little. I serious doubt they thought what they were doing would be serious enough to get them fired from their jobs and their productions cancelled. After all, nepotism runs rampant in Hollywood so why should they be singled out for ostracization. Personally I think Hallmark is overreacting and it would not surprise me at all if they rehire her after this whole scandal blows over. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/230 "2019-03-15T17:25:54Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > I’ll actually defend Loughlin and Huffman a little. I serious doubt they thought what they were doing would be serious enough to get them fired from their jobs and their productions cancelled. After all, nepotism runs rampant in Hollywood so why should they be singled out for ostracization. Personally I think Hallmark is overreacting and it would not surprise me at all if they rehire her after this whole scandal blows over. They didn’t do it to punish her. They did it because she is an untouchable PR disaster right now and they didn’t want to lose their sponsors. A goody two shows operation like the Hallmark channel likely won’t use her ever again. ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/231 "2019-03-15T17:45:04Z")
I don’t know that Hallmark necessarily won’t use her again, but I’m not sure they have that much incentive to. There are likely a good number of actresses of similar age/fame that would be willing to make the same sorts of mystery movies. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/232 "2019-03-15T18:26:23Z")
> [@Tzigone](#): > > I don’t know that Hallmark necessarily won’t use her again, but I’m not sure they have that much incentive to. There are likely a good number of actresses of similar age/fame that would be willing to make the same sorts of mystery movies. Heck, Hallmark already has a bunch of other actresses whom they regularly employ, including Candace Cameron Bure (who also happens to be another _Full House_ alum), Lacey Chabert, Kimberly Williams-Paisley, Kellie Martin, Danica McKellar, etc., etc. And, yeah, as hajaro notes, Hallmark is an extremely conservative company. I don’t see them bringing Loughlin back any time soon, if ever. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/233 "2019-03-15T18:27:11Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > From reading all the posts, I got the impression that USC is not a highly selective school, but their admissions requirements say otherwise: USC has done a lot in the past decade or two to improve their _bona fides_ in undergraduate academics. A generation ago, with the exception of its film and dentistry programs, it was _primarily_ a school for wealthy, but academically ungifted kids, and was often mocked as the University of Spoiled Children. ---
**Author:** ![StraightTalk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straighttalk/32/9982_2.png) [@StraightTalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StraightTalk)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/234 "2019-03-15T18:36:07Z")
> [@Tzigone](#): > > I don’t know that Hallmark necessarily won’t use her again, but I’m not sure they have that much incentive to. There are likely a good number of actresses of similar age/fame that would be willing to make the same sorts of mystery movies. The first Garage Sale Mysteries movie had a different actor playing her husband Jason. And the actors playing the kids were different in the beginning too. Maybe now they can get a different actress to play Jennifer. I’d rather see that than see it axed altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/235 "2019-03-15T18:39:06Z")
> [@](#): > > The first Garage Sale Mysteries movie had a different actor playing her husband Jason. And the actors playing the kids were different in the beginning too. Maybe now they can get a different actress to play Jennifer. I’d rather see that than see it axed altogether. I can understand that. I may have watched the first, not sure. Haven’t followed the movie series, though. Do watch Aurora Teagarden with Cadance Cameron Bure, though. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/236 "2019-03-15T20:10:46Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > I’ll actually defend Loughlin and Huffman a little. I serious doubt they thought what they were doing would be serious enough to get them fired from their jobs and their productions cancelled. After all, nepotism runs rampant in Hollywood so why should they be singled out for ostracization. Personally I think Hallmark is overreacting and it would not surprise me at all if they rehire her after this whole scandal blows over. Hallmark’s reaction is entirely proportionate. The entertainment industry is a PR industry, and Lori Loughlin’s escapades won’t play well with the ordinary folks who watch Hallmark films. She’s a serviceable actor, but can be replaced with any number of reliable professionals. They have no reason to hire her back. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/237 "2019-03-15T20:20:06Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > I’ll actually defend Loughlin and Huffman a little. I serious doubt they thought what they were doing would be serious enough to get them fired from their jobs and their productions cancelled. After all, nepotism runs rampant in Hollywood so why should they be singled out for ostracization. Personally I think Hallmark is overreacting and it would not surprise me at all if they rehire her after this whole scandal blows over. This isn’t nepotism. This is paying bribes under the table. I think it’s a lot more likely that they just never once thought they’d get caught. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/238 "2019-03-15T21:15:25Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Hallmark’s reaction is entirely proportionate. The entertainment industry is a PR industry, and Lori Loughlin’s escapades won’t play well with the ordinary folks who watch Hallmark films. She’s a serviceable actor, but can be replaced with any number of reliable professionals. They have no reason to hire her back. As several articles have pointed out over the past couple of days, she is more than one actor out of a stable of actors, she’s become a major part of the Hallmark brand, with the mystery series, a romance series, a ton of Christmas movies, and a bunch of side businesses. I suspect this means that after a suitable amount of time has passed, she’ll go on a redemption tour of talk shows followed by a return to Hallmark (in show _business_, in the end if’s all about the benjamins). It helps that the Hallmark audience demographic loves a good redemption story. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/239 "2019-03-15T21:38:35Z")
I think it’s her besmirched Christian values that will keep her from doing so, and from her getting hired back. That ship has kinda sailed now! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/240 "2019-03-15T21:54:53Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > I’ve heard that tactics is taking flowers to your first date with a girl, whereas strategy is sending her flowers three days before your first date. But if you do it before she was born, that’s just weird. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001.md?page=13)