# Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin indicted in Ivy League bribery scheme **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 12, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001 "2019-03-12T15:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/241 "2019-03-15T23:45:15Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I think it’s her besmirched Christian values that will keep her from doing so, and from her getting hired back. > > That ship has kinda sailed now! She’s Catholic. One trip to confession and she’s good to go. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/242 "2019-03-19T22:14:08Z")
> **[College admissions scandal: Wealthy parents told to make deal or face more...](https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-college-admissions-scandal-parents-cooperation-20190319-story.html)** > > Federal prosecutors are seeking potential deals with some of the wealthy parents charged in the sweeping college admissions scandal as investigators continue to broaden the case, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation. > [@](#): > > College admissions scandal: Wealthy parents told to make deal or face more charges > > Federal prosecutors are seeking potential deals with some of the wealthy parents charged in the sweeping college admissions scandal as investigators continue to broaden the case, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation. > > One source said some of the parents are being given a short window to consider a deal or potentially face additional charges. > > It’s unclear which parents prosecutors hope to seek out for cooperation, but sources said authorities were interested in getting a better picture of how the scam worked. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/243 "2019-04-08T19:19:52Z")
Felicity Huffman to plead guilty: > ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/244 "2019-04-09T14:11:27Z")
> [@](#): > > Lori Loughlin and her husband are in a way worse position than Felicity Huffman … because the huge amount they allegedly paid in bribes to get their daughters into USC could land them in prison for 2 YEARS MINIMUM … TMZ has learned. Sources connected to the case tell us … all of the parents in the college cheating scandal have been offered plea deals, but prosecutors will only accept pleas with prison time attached. As we reported, Felicity copped a plea Monday, along with 12 other parents. The remaining 37 individuals charged – including Lori and her husband, Mossimo Giannulli – have been offered plea deals, with varying recommendations for prison sentences, largely determined by the amount they paid in bribes and whether they accept responsibility for what they did. Felicity’s plea would enable her to serve as little as 4 months in prison. The problem for Lori and Mossimo is that they paid $500,000 to allegedly bribe the crew coach, and the amount raises the MINIMUM PRISON SENTENCE IN A PLEA DEAL TO A RANGE OF 2 TO 2 1/2 YEARS. Our sources say prosecutors have given all defendants an ultimatum … reach a plea deal QUICKLY or else they will go to a Federal Grand Jury and add charges, including money laundering, which significantly raises the low end of prison time. > **[Lori Loughlin Just Indicted for Additional Charge of Money Laundering](https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/09/lori-loughlin-plea-bargain-prison-sentence-college-bribery-money/)** > > Lori Loughlin and husband will get minimum 2-year prison sentence if they cop a plea deal in college bribery case. This surprises me: I expected the plea deals to be fines/community service/probation–with no prison sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/245 "2019-04-09T15:57:24Z")
Personally, I’m happier if they go to jail for at least a little while - what are fines to the filthy rich? Just the cost of doing business. Jail time, though, that’s an actual inconvenience. AND they have to sit elbow-to-elbow with the impoverished masses at meal time. Although that might be a little unfair to the impoverished who have to put with Their Specialness. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/246 "2019-04-09T16:49:15Z")
Caitlin Flanagan pens a masterpiece on this for The Atlantic. It is practically a film treatment “They Had It Coming” – [What the College-Admissions Scandal Reveals - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/what-college-admissions-scandal-reveals/586468/) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/247 "2019-04-09T17:25:49Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Jail time, though, that’s an actual inconvenience. AND they have to sit elbow-to-elbow with the impoverished masses at meal time. Although that might be a little unfair to the impoverished who have to put with Their Specialness. We are talking federal prisons here: they get a better class of criminal (white collar crime, tax evaders…) than state prisons. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/248 "2019-04-09T18:29:24Z")
Looks like Lori Loughlin might be going to the Fuller House: [LORI LOUGHLIN AND HUBBY JUST INDICTED FOR ADDITIONAL CHARGE OF MONEY LAUNDERING](https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/09/lori-loughlin-plea-bargain-prison-sentence-college-bribery-money/) As breathlessly reported, > [@](#): > > This means if Lori and her husband now want to plea bargain their cases, instead of a minimum range of 2 to 2 and a half years in prison … prosecutors would recommend to the judge a MINIMUM RANGE OF 4 YEARS AND 9 MONTHS UP TO 5 YEARS AND 11 MONTHS. > > There’s also a very technical rub. Theoretically by charging CONSPIRACY to money launder, the minimum sentence could go even higher – way higher. This is from TMZ, America’s most trusted source for news. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/249 "2019-04-09T18:40:51Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Caitlin Flanagan pens a masterpiece on this for The Atlantic. It is practically a film treatment > > “They Had It Coming” – [What the College-Admissions Scandal Reveals - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/what-college-admissions-scandal-reveals/586468/) That was a thing of beauty. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/250 "2019-04-09T18:51:59Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Caitlin Flanagan pens a masterpiece on this for The Atlantic. It is practically a film treatment > > “They Had It Coming” – [What the College-Admissions Scandal Reveals - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/what-college-admissions-scandal-reveals/586468/) That’s one of the best essays I’ve read in _years_. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/251 "2019-04-09T19:00:52Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Caitlin Flanagan pens a masterpiece on this for The Atlantic. It is practically a film treatment > > “They Had It Coming” – [What the College-Admissions Scandal Reveals - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/what-college-admissions-scandal-reveals/586468/) > [@hajario](#): > > That was a thing of beauty. Aye; well worth the time. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/252 "2019-04-09T19:01:00Z")
BTW, Caitlin Flanagan’s piece in The Atlantic seemed to avoid saying the name of the private school where she taught English. But in case you’re curious, the description matches [Harvard-Westlake School](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard-Westlake_School). And yes, from everything I’ve heard, it’s the most prestigious private school in Southern California. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/253 "2019-04-09T19:01:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Looks like Lori Loughlin might be going to the Fuller House: [LORI LOUGHLIN AND HUBBY JUST INDICTED FOR ADDITIONAL CHARGE OF MONEY LAUNDERING](https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/09/lori-loughlin-plea-bargain-prison-sentence-college-bribery-money/) > > As breathlessly reported, > > This is from TMZ, America’s most trusted source for news. 🙂 She, her husband and their lawyers must think that they have a very good chance of getting away with it. I wonder what their game plan is. Could they be trying to get off on a technicality? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/254 "2019-04-09T19:08:40Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > BTW, Caitlin Flanagan’s piece in The Atlantic seemed to avoid saying the name of the private school where she taught English. But in case you’re curious, the description matches [Harvard-Westlake School](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard-Westlake_School). And yes, from everything I’ve heard, it’s the most prestigious private school in Southern California. I am pretty sure that that’s what it was as well. I went to a fairly rough public High School in L.A. a few years before the author was working for the private school. I knew one kid (friend of a friend) who went there and the entitlement was through the roof. He actually was a highly ranked youth tennis player so I am sure he got into a very good school on a legitimate sports scholarship. …I just Googled him and he did play tennis for an Ivy. Was a pro tennis player for a while and is now a very highly regarded coach. Good for him. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/255 "2019-04-09T19:15:00Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > She, her husband and their lawyers must think that they have a very good chance of getting away with it. I wonder what their game plan is. Could they be trying to get off on a technicality? She and her husband certainly do. They wouldn’t be the first rich, entitled people who think they’re smarter than their very expensive lawyers however. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/256 "2019-04-09T19:36:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > This is from TMZ, America’s most trusted source for news. 🙂 It pains me to say it, but they get it right most of the time. As for prison, they’ll go to a cushy minimum security facility as Martha Stewart did. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/257 "2019-04-09T19:49:01Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Caitlin Flanagan pens a masterpiece on this for The Atlantic. It is practically a film treatment > > “They Had It Coming” – [What the College-Admissions Scandal Reveals - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/what-college-admissions-scandal-reveals/586468/) A superb piece from someone whose experiences as a college counselor at a private school are enlightening, to say the least. Thanks so much for the link! ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/258 "2019-04-09T23:11:54Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > She, her husband and their lawyers must think that they have a very good chance of getting away with it. I wonder what their game plan is. Could they be trying to get off on a technicality? I hate that term. There are very few technicalities. For the most part what people call a technicality is a purposeful or inadvertent constitutional violation. This early on but I doubt they even have discovery. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/259 "2019-04-10T01:52:16Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I hate that term. There are very few technicalities. For the most part what people call a technicality is a purposeful or inadvertent constitutional violation. This early on but I doubt they even have discovery. I get you. I wonder what their strategy is. They already got a charge added for not taking a plea yet. Could they try to claim entrapment? Hope for a hold out juror? Is there any argument for a constitutional violation. I know that we haven’t seen all of the evidence yet but we can still speculate. On a related subject, I wonder how many other Singers there are out there and it this is the tip of the ice burg. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/260 "2019-04-10T05:37:09Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Looks like Lori Loughlin might be going to the Fuller House: [LORI LOUGHLIN AND HUBBY JUST INDICTED FOR ADDITIONAL CHARGE OF MONEY LAUNDERING](https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/09/lori-loughlin-plea-bargain-prison-sentence-college-bribery-money/) Who says there is no good news anymore. If they convict her, Lori will be first in line for the remake of “Orange is the New Black.” Though by that time it might be Orange is the New Gray. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001.md?page=14)