# Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin indicted in Ivy League bribery scheme **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 12, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001 "2019-03-12T15:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/441 "2019-09-26T13:09:01Z")
Another parent in the scandal sentenced: > [@](#): > > Business executive Devin Sloane became the second parent sentenced for his role in the widespread college admissions scandal when a judge gave him four months in prison on Tuesday for paying a $250,000 bribe to get his son into the University of Southern California. > > The Los Angeles executive pleaded guilty in May to fraud and conspiracy in a plea deal with prosecutors after authorities said he faked documents and even staged photos in the family’s swimming pool to make his son look like a water polo star, even though he never played the sport… > > Sloane also received 500 hours of community service and a fine of $95,000. > **[2nd parent in college scandal gets prison — what it means for Lori Loughlin](https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2019/09/25/2nd-parent-in-college-scandal-gets-prison-what-it-means-for-lori-loughlin/23819866/)** > > A businessman was sentenced to four months in prison after pleading guilty in the widespread college admissions scandal, which a legal expert said could mean trouble for Lori Loughlin. The fine ($95,000) should have been at least as big as the bribe he paid ($250,000). ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/442 "2019-10-05T16:07:13Z")
> [@](#): > > A wealthy California vintner was sentenced Friday to five months in prison for paying tens of thousands of dollars to artificially boost his daughter’s SAT scores and to try to get her recruited as a water polo player at the University of Southern California, federal prosecutors said. The sentence for Agustin Francisco Huneeus, 53, of San Francisco is the longest jail term yet for anyone in the massive college admissions cheating scandal… > > Huneeus is the fifth parent to be sentenced in the cheating scheme. The former head of Huneeus vineyard in California’s Napa Valley, pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud in May. Prosecutors sought a sentence of 15 months for Huneeus, but U.S. District Judge Indira Talwani in Boston sentenced him to five months, 500 hours of community service and two years of supervised release. He will also have to pay a $100,000 fine. > **[California winemaker gets longest sentence yet in admissions cheating scheme ―...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dad-gets-5-months-longest-prison-sentence-yet-college-admissions-n1062776)** > > Agustin Francisco Huneeus had agreed to pay $300,000 to get his daughter into the University of Southern California, prosecutors said. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/443 "2019-10-06T01:36:21Z")
A five-month timeout seems a just punishment. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/444 "2020-02-11T02:38:58Z")
Today CNN posted a copy of daughter Olivia’s student profile form. She claimed to be a coxwain. Not sure where the info on page two was cribbed from, but she spelled _row_ “wrow” on page one. > **[Here's Olivia Jade Giannulli's fake athletic profile listing her as a...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html)** > > The fake athletic profile that portrayed Olivia Jade Giannulli as a gold medal-winning crew coxswain and helped her gain admission to USC was included in a legal filing by prosecutors Friday in the college admissions scam. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/445 "2020-02-11T02:52:51Z")
Last week, Douglas Hodge, former CEO of Pimco (huge investment management firm), was [sentenced](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/us/douglas-hodge-college-admissions-scandal.html) (paywall warning) to nine months in prison. He spent $850,000 in bribes to get four of his children into Georgetown and USC (two children into each school). ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/446 "2020-02-11T03:18:06Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Today CNN posted a copy of daughter Olivia’s student profile form. She claimed to be a coxwain. Not sure where the info on page two was cribbed from, but she spelled _row_ “wrow” on page one. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html) I’ve seen some videos. Is a coxswain what the college girls are calling it now? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/447 "2020-02-11T13:29:43Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Today CNN posted a copy of daughter Olivia’s student profile form. She claimed to be a coxwain. Not sure where the info on page two was cribbed from, but she spelled _row_ “wrow” on page one. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html) Not that I’m defending this family of scumbags, but wrow = women’s rowing. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/448 "2020-02-11T14:37:18Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Today CNN posted a copy of daughter Olivia’s student profile form. She claimed to be a coxwain. Not sure where the info on page two was cribbed from, but she spelled _row_ “wrow” on page one. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html) From her profile, she lists her skills as “awareness, organization, direction and steering” but he mother could have used some of those to steer clear of the problems. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/449 "2020-02-11T15:38:38Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > Is a coxswain what the college girls are calling it now? “Stroke…stroke…stroke…” ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/450 "2020-02-11T21:15:08Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > I’ve seen some videos. > > Is a coxswain what the college girls are calling it now? No need for that. It’s the usual name for that role in rowing, for men or women. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/451 "2020-02-12T10:09:19Z")
And also an old joke. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/452 "2020-02-12T11:08:07Z")
I’m still amazed they broke the law, risked criminal indictment, and spent tens of thousands of dollars to get into second-tier schools like U.S.C., Wake Forest, and Georgetown. If you’re going to cheat, why aim so low? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/453 "2020-02-12T12:49:11Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I’m still amazed they broke the law, risked criminal indictment, and spent tens of thousands of dollars to get into second-tier schools like U.S.C., Wake Forest, and Georgetown. If you’re going to cheat, why aim so low? It’s about being realistic and self-aware of your own limitations. They knew they weren’t cut out for ivy league. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/454 "2020-02-12T13:18:26Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > It’s about being realistic and self-aware of your own limitations. They knew they weren’t cut out for ivy league. Delicious irony ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/455 "2020-02-12T15:55:16Z")
Note that Stanford and Yale both had students admitted through this scheme. The idea wasn’t to get your kids into schools that they were academically unqualified for, it was to get them from the huge pile of applicants who were perfectly acceptable but otherwise unremarkable into the admitted pile. USC has an admission rate of 16%, Georgetown 15%, Wake Forest 27%, so unless you were wildly overqualified, there’s no guarantee you’d get into any of them. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/456 "2020-02-13T14:37:22Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Note that Stanford and Yale both had students admitted through this scheme. The idea wasn’t to get your kids into schools that they were academically unqualified for, it was to get them from the huge pile of applicants who were perfectly acceptable but otherwise unremarkable into the admitted pile. USC has an admission rate of 16%, Georgetown 15%, Wake Forest 27%, so unless you were wildly overqualified, there’s no guarantee you’d get into any of them. From wiki, > [@](#): > > Federal prosecutors alleged a college-admission scheme that involved: > > ``` > bribing exam administrators to facilitate cheating on college and university entrance exams;[19] > bribing coaches and administrators of elite universities to nominate unqualified applicants as elite recruited athletes, thus facilitating the applicants' admission;[19] > > ``` The students weren’t qualified under the normal process, but as “elite athletes” they could have special consideration. In other cases, they arranged for cheating on the entrance exams. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/457 "2020-02-13T15:18:48Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > From wiki, The students weren’t qualified under the normal process, but as “elite athletes” they could have special consideration. In other cases, they arranged for cheating on the entrance exams. Well, the wiki page is misstating what’s actually in the [affidavit it links to](https://www.washingtonpost.com/college-admissions-bribery-scheme-affidavit/d216435e-e073-41f6-b6fa-33ed835d053d_note.html): > [@](#): > > Bribing university athletic coaches and administrators to designate applicants as purported athletic recruits—regardless of their athletic abilities, and in some cases, even though they did not play the sport they were purportedly recruited to play—thereby facilitating their admission to universities in place of more qualified applicants; “in place of more qualified applicants” does not mean that the students were unqualified. As was discussed earlier in this thread and in the media at the time, coaches get a certain number of slots to accept applicants for a sport, as long as they otherwise meet the other minimum admissions requirement. So the rowing coach at USC can’t accept a D- student with 900 SATs, but can accept a B+ student with 1300s, who would otherwise be competing with a few thousand other B+/1300 SAT students for a few hundred slots. ETA: You’re asbsolutely right about having ringers take the SATs for kids however. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/458 "2020-02-15T06:27:31Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Today CNN posted a copy of daughter Olivia’s student profile form. She claimed to be a coxwain. Not sure where the info on page two was cribbed from, but she spelled _row_ “wrow” on page one. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/us/olivia-jade-giannulli-athletic-profile/index.html) To be fair, rowers do tend to have thick sculls. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/459 "2020-08-21T21:19:27Z")
Bump… [Lori Loughlin tearfully admits she made ‘awful decision’ as she’s sentenced to 2 months in prison, husband gets 5 months in prison](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lori-loughlin-sentencing-husband-mossimo-giannulli-gets-5-months-in-prison-as-its-revealed-he-took-infamous-rowing-pictures-160643809.html) _Loughlin wore white for the proceedings and addressed the court, admitting, “I made an awful decision. I went along with a plan to give my daughters an unfair advantage in the college admissions process. In doing so, I ignored my intuition and allowed myself to be swayed from my moral compass.”_ ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-indicted-in-ivy-league-bribery-scheme/831001/460 "2020-08-21T21:39:04Z")
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