# Fellow atheists: help me explain to believers that our morality is NOT faith based. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 7, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-atheists-help-me-explain-to-believers-that-our-morality-is-not-faith-based/700684 "2014-10-07T20:35:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-atheists-help-me-explain-to-believers-that-our-morality-is-not-faith-based/700684/181 "2014-10-19T02:56:44Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > That’s odd. I had been under the impression that the desiderata was to be eaten _first_. . . No, no, that’s only dogma in _Cthulhuism,_ not Yog Sothothism. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-atheists-help-me-explain-to-believers-that-our-morality-is-not-faith-based/700684/182 "2014-10-19T19:46:53Z")
Oh, come on! Yog Sothothism is merely a sect of Cthulhuism, formed in protest against the corrupt practices of the Roman Cthulhuic Church when Richard Upton Pickman nailed a copy of the Necronomicon to the door of the administration building at Miskatonic University. They still share the same basic beliefs; the only difference is that Roman Cthulhuics believe that the actual physical bodies of the worshippers get eaten, while Yog Sothothirans maintain that only the essential intelligence and individual personality is consumed. And that’s practically a difference without a distinction. That and the fact that Sothothirans reject the Cthulhuic practice of venerating Dagon (although they do accord [del]him[/del] [del]her[/del] it great respect). :dubious: See, _this_ is why nobody takes you seriously when you talk about religion. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-atheists-help-me-explain-to-believers-that-our-morality-is-not-faith-based/700684/183 "2014-10-19T19:53:14Z")
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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-atheists-help-me-explain-to-believers-that-our-morality-is-not-faith-based/700684/184 "2014-10-21T21:51:59Z")
No no NO! Let me clear this up once and for all! The main difference between Cthulhuism and Yog Sosothism is whether we should dip people in ketchup or mustard before eating you. That’s it! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-atheists-help-me-explain-to-believers-that-our-morality-is-not-faith-based/700684/185 "2014-10-22T03:49:24Z")
Just a friendly hint: the cannibal nickname for human flesh is “long pig.” So, two words: Apple. Sauce. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-atheists-help-me-explain-to-believers-that-our-morality-is-not-faith-based/700684.md?page=9)