# Fellow Dopers, A Word if I May

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586 "2007-02-17T02:51:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/61 "2007-02-17T10:29:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Klaatu]  
Damn, you sound like Dean Koontz in your self righteous anger.  
[/QUOTE]  
Hmm.

First of all, Dean Koontz would be that last novelist I’d ever read.

Secondly, I’m trying to find the anger in what I said.

Thirdly, I hate to break the news to you that Klaatu was never the reformation of the Beatles.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/62 "2007-02-17T10:35:33Z")

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Oh, and the Rat Patrol was a good show, as I’m sure **ETF** will tell you later today when she reams you a new asshole, asshole. Christopher George was badass, bud.

smoochies…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/63 "2007-02-17T10:40:59Z")

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[QUOTE=guizot]  
Secondly, I’m trying to find the anger in what I said.  
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Maybe it was what you said about Lissa’s taint.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/64 "2007-02-17T10:41:11Z")

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**guizot** , I was talking to Lib, not you, and my name is from the movie not the band.

Klaatu Barada Nikto

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/65 "2007-02-17T10:43:44Z")

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this is getting fucking confusing… I am trying to give somebody shit here…

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/66 "2007-02-17T10:53:27Z")

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I give up. Lib, I will give you fresh shit later today, I have to sleep.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/67 "2007-02-17T11:26:53Z")

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Hey, **Little Nemo** , you missed this post of mine from this thread!

[QUOTE=Me]  
Further, **Lissa** , you didn’t make it clear until this thread that you brainfarted and weren’t considering that the crime being discussed happened in the U.K. when you first posted in that thread. Your apology didn’t even hint at that. So, can you see why people remained irritable now? If you’d have said that in with your apology, it would have made a difference with me at least. I’m human too, I make mistakes also. I hope that this helps you.  
[/QUOTE]

Did you read what I said here too? Maybe you should. Yeah, I was boggling at how she was “niave” in a certain way in the other thread. She was at the time. I was basically asking her how she could have avoided learning that before now, due to the fact that she has heard many firsthand accounts of prisoners and their crimes. It wasn’t sneering either, I rather admired that she was still “innocent” in that way. I figured that this case had already breached that innocence, so verified the ideas beginning to dawn on **Lissa** , trying to soften the shock by comforting her. I wasn’t asking about American prison policy in post 4, I was asking about her own realizations due to the kind of exposure she’s had. I was comforting her in post 8, which you also left out.

I find it interesting that you haven’t touched **Polycarp** ’s post, nor the people who said “ditto” to him. I agree with him as well, FTR. He touched on some of what I was trying to say. In short, your “coverage” isn’t as thorough as you are professing. :dubious:

As for your attempt to paint me as the base villian and leader of the onslaught…bite me! :dubious:

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**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/68 "2007-02-17T11:49:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
I’m not married and therefore unqualified to comment on _anything._  
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If one has no balls, do they truly know that it hurts when they’re kicked?

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/69 "2007-02-17T12:36:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Klaatu]  
**guizot** , I was talking to Lib, not you, and my name is from the movie not the band.

Klaatu Barada Nikto  
[/QUOTE]  
My sincere apologies, **Klaatu**. I had no idea there was a movie callerd _Klaatu Barada Nikto_. (Maybe you’ll have a moment to tell me about this movie: the language, the premise, etc.)

And I was really only making a joke that I’d assumed you’d brush off.

But there is something about certain diminutive forms that bothers me. “Veggies,” is one. Why can’t you just say “vegetables”? It requires only one syllable more. But “hubby”? (Same number of syllables.) How would you like it if I called you my “wifey”? Or better yet, my “ball and chain”?

I think people on the net want to convey their intimacy (for no reason I can yet fathom) by using these terms. Maybe they want the world to know that they have a happy domestic life. Well, fine, but I think there are other ways of doing this than using degrading terms like “hubby.”

If you marry me, and call me your “hubby,” then you’re just asking for a divorce. I’m sure in California they’ll grant it. No self-respecting man in CA would put up with a wife who calls him her “hubby.”  
That being said, it doesn’t necessarily invalidate **Lissa** ’s comments.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/70 "2007-02-17T12:45:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Maybe it was what you said about Lissa’s taint.  
[/QUOTE]  
Could you elaborate on the term “taint”? Seriously, I’m not sure want you’re getting at.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/71 "2007-02-17T13:02:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Maybe it was what you said about Lissa’s taint.  
[/QUOTE]  
Could you elaborate on the term “taint”? I meant to say that a spouse might come home and paint a "prettier’ picture of his/her behavior on the job. So, I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I am NOT saying that this is what **Lissa** ’s husband does, Just that it’s a possibility. And I only raise this as a philosophilcal possibility. I have no reason to doubt \*\*Lissa \*\*or her husband. But pressreports give me many reasons to doubt prision guards.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/72 "2007-02-17T13:07:01Z")

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[QUOTE=guizot]  
I had no idea there was a movie callerd _Klaatu Barada Nikto_. (Maybe you’ll have a moment to tell me about this movie: the language, the premise, etc.)  
[/QUOTE]

The film’s called “The Day the Earth Stood Still”. Classic Fifties SF.

> **[The Day the Earth Stood Still](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still)**
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> The Day the Earth Stood Still is a 1951 American science fiction film from 20th Century-Fox, produced by Julian Blaustein and directed by Robert Wise. It stars Michael Rennie, Patricia Neal, Hugh Marlowe, Sam Jaffe, Billy Gray, Frances Bavier and Lock Martin. The screenplay was written by Edmund H. North, based on the 1940 science fiction short story "Farewell to the Master" by Harry Bates. The film score was composed by Bernard Herrmann. Set in the Cold War during the early stages of the n Aft...

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/73 "2007-02-17T13:08:30Z")

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[QUOTE=guizot]  
Could you elaborate on the term “taint”?  
[/QUOTE]

“Taint” is slang for the perineum.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/74 "2007-02-17T14:01:20Z")

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egads. I said "fuck’, and in a pit thread. obviously, I must be shunned.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/75 "2007-02-17T14:25:36Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
Yes, wise advise. **Rubystreak** doesn’t like how she harps on her looks- so never mind all the agreement with **Alice\_in\_wonderland**. After all, she’s so vain that it wipes out her point. Please continue as normal, **Lissa**. **Rubystreak** ’s got your back.

IMHO **Lissa** , you often use your account to post things that your Hubby should be posting or nobody at all. It definitely puts me off. I understand that you take it as something of a personal hobby, as well as the occupation of your husband, but somehow it all grates when taken together.  
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I believe in **Rubystreak** ’s case, it’s like people are telling **Lissa** -it’s not WHAT she said, but HOW she said it.  
**Liberal** , you miserable piece of shit, and you WONDER why people get sick of you? What the FUCK is your problem? **EddyTeddyFreddy** said nothing that deserved that kind of response.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/76 "2007-02-17T14:29:02Z")

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**Lissa** works in a museum, which she posts a lot about. Since there aren’t so many museum workers on the board, I’m often interested in what she has to say.

**Lissa** , I like you too. I hope you are able to pull away some constructive criticism so that people won’t get so irritated with you again.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/77 "2007-02-17T14:37:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Lissa]  
After that, every time I post in a thread which mentions prisons, I find myself at the bottom of a pile of people eager to slam me for it  
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So when you post about prisons, you get slammers? Sounds appropriate to me.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/78 "2007-02-17T14:38:02Z")

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I like **Lissa** too, **monstro**. So I hope she takes what I have to say as constructive, and knows I’m not trying to offend her, or kick her when she’s down.  
ETA: **Biffy** , you aughta be shot for that one.  
_groan_

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/79 "2007-02-17T14:38:29Z")

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[QUOTE=ParentalAdvisory]  
If one has no balls, do they truly know that it hurts when they’re kicked?  
[/QUOTE]

Instead of a kick, could it be one hand slapping?

Anyhoo, humble shmumble. This is the SDMB. I demand on behalf of myself and Lissa the right to be as arrogant as we please and anyone who doesn’t like it better deal or go whining back to Mommy like the scalded bitches they are.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-dopers-a-word-if-i-may/392586/80 "2007-02-17T14:39:26Z")

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[QUOTE=LifeOnWry]  
I do not have personal knowledge of finance or aviation or computers, but if someone asks about these things, I CAN ask experts I know and reply with their information. I don’t see why other people can’t do that, too.  
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There’s no evidence that she goes and asks her husband about specific information she posts in any given thread – she merely provides her take on it, which she sees as authoritative because her husband works in corrections.

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