# Fellow "reality" fans: Talk me into watching "Apprentice: MS" tonight **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 30, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441 "2005-11-30T20:19:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/1 "2005-11-30T20:19:21Z")
Can anyone think of a reason I should watch? ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/2 "2005-11-30T20:32:33Z")
Sadly, no. And I actually have a Season Pass to the show. Watch “Lost” instead! ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/3 "2005-11-30T20:44:15Z")
I watch it because…well… it’s on. If you haven’t watched it from the start, you might not have the same time and interested invested to get you through an episode. The big thing about the show is the underlying expectation where you want to see Martha let her bitch flag fly and sadly it never even makes it half-staff. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/4 "2005-11-30T20:56:01Z")
Nah, I _have_ been watching it since the start and I _still_ don’t give a shit. Even the possibility – er, strong probability – that Jim will get seriously inappropriate with someone about something isn’t going to be enough to entice me, I don’t think. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/5 "2005-12-01T09:08:18Z")
Well, I solve all that indecision by taping it, then I can skim through whenever. I really don’t see why everyone thinks it’s so bad. I thought the tasks were at least more inteesting an realistic than The Donald’s version. I just don’t understand why Jim is still on the show. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/6 "2005-12-01T13:09:08Z")
Let me know if anything good happened. I hung out and listened to music and had four simultaneous IM conversations going instead. (I can do no more than two if I’m watching TV at the same time. 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/7 "2005-12-01T14:38:47Z")
Watch it. There is always the chance that The Donald will call Clay, invite him to dinner, and then wink at him over the menu as he says “I think I’ll try the chicken…” ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/8 "2005-12-01T15:00:24Z")
Clay is – was – on the “Real” _Apprentice_, which I watch without urging. (If only because I’m on IM with **Rysler** and we indulge in snarky commentary throughout). This is Martha Stewart, which has failed to delight me. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/9 "2005-12-01T16:02:26Z")
Leslie got fired. I won’t bore you with a recap of the tasks. Basically, Leslie talked a big game and then failed miserably as PM. Jim and Bethenny managed another win in their typically disfunctionally functional way. Martha came up with arguably her best firing line to date (“We just don’t need you”). Next week: Jim gets drunk…again. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/10 "2005-12-01T16:14:01Z")
You forgot the best part, **Diogenes** – the “reward” was dinner with Charles and some woman (chairman of the board, I think), and Jim came right out and talked about his “game” strategy of getting rid of the strong so he’d only have weak candidates to go up against to win. You know, he really has killed off a few too many brain cells along the way; that was so moronic it was total proof that they’re keeping him around solely for entertainment value! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/11 "2005-12-01T16:23:53Z")
> [@Mama Tiger](#): > > … they’re keeping him around solely for entertainment value! And yet even the sure knowledge that I’d get to watch Jim act like an as\*\*le wasn’t enough to get me to watch last night… ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/12 "2005-12-01T16:27:06Z")
I would have watched if nothing else was on. We watched Lost and recorded Trading Spouses, so there was no room for Martha. Are there any decent candidates left? Marcela, Bethenny, Jim – who else is left? Does Marcela have a shot? ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/13 "2005-12-01T18:35:32Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Clay is – was – on the “Real” _Apprentice_, which I watch without urging. (If only because I’m on IM with **Rysler** and we indulge in snarky commentary throughout). This is Martha Stewart, which has failed to delight me. sorry 'bout that… I thought the OP was referring to the _Microsoft_-based show that is airing tonight on the orig. Apprentice. I made myself laugh, though… ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/14 "2005-12-01T18:38:09Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > I made myself laugh, though… Of course you did – you’re a **phungi**! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/15 "2005-12-02T00:42:00Z")
Ugh, what a broing episode. I’m a fan of the show and even I (almost) regret having watched it. They’re diting Jim into a semi-decent human being, little by little, and I’ll have none of it. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-reality-fans-talk-me-into-watching-apprentice-ms-tonight/333441/16 "2005-12-02T04:49:00Z")
This version sucks. Rather than building tasks around Martha’s business, they’ve simply copied verbatim from The Donald. WTF does creating a car commercial have to do with helping run Martha Stewart Omnimedia? I’m not surprised the show has been cancelled. The contestants are unlikeable and the tasks mostly boring. Even Martha comes off phonier than usual.