# Fellow software folks (programmers)... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 10, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448 "2012-05-10T00:43:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/1 "2012-05-10T00:43:27Z")
We’ve been using the wrong terminology, at least according to CNN. Apparently we should eschew the mundane references to threads, schedulers, overruns, and the like. Really hip and with-it programmers now tend to “[_bro down and crush some code._](http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/07/tech/web/brogrammers/index.html?hpt=hp_bn11)” Don’t laugh. This is a real news story. You can tell it’s not BS by the headline “Some bemoan the…”. Hard-hitting journalists always lead their stories with this. :rolleyes: So, according to those respected reporters, I need to stop being (and I quote) a “_programmer who lives for the thrill of finding a single misplaced semicolon in thousands of lines of code_” and get out there and… what? Go for the gusto? Be all that I can be? I dunno about ya’ll, but I let the compiler go for those wild semicolon hunting thrills. I’m just lazy, I guess. But as the article says, we shouldn’t waste time on the outdated act of programming, the new wave is “bro-gramming”. Good grief… :smack: PS. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure the start-up company that left posters with the above “bro-” phrase was doing it ironically, or tongue-in-cheek. I don’t think the reporter picked up on that. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/2 "2012-05-10T02:34:09Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > PS. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure the start-up company that left posters with the above “bro-” phrase was doing it ironically, or tongue-in-cheek. I don’t think the reporter picked up on that. Sounds like a parody of some programmer management fad. Tag team programming, or whatever they called it years ago when they wanted all the programmers to pair up and take turns coding while the other watched. (Not that that can’t work, but mandating it was stupid.) ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/3 "2012-05-10T19:43:37Z")
I am so going to use _bro down and crush some code_ tomorrow at work. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/4 "2012-05-10T19:48:50Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > and get out there and… what? Go for the gusto? Be all that I can be? Ahem. Crush some code. Bro. Looks like someone hasn’t been paying attention. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/5 "2012-05-10T20:07:28Z")
I think you need to change your title: **Fellow software folks (brogrammers)…** Around my office “bro down and crush some code” has replaced “[I’ll create a GUI interface using Visual Basic. See if I can track an IP address.](http://youtu.be/hkDD03yeLnU)” ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/6 "2012-05-10T20:14:14Z")
Bro, I crush code like all the time, Bro. I can algorithm my @ss around mountains of code any time Bro! You see me rollin’ you hatin’! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/7 "2012-05-10T20:19:00Z")
Whatever happened to Xtreme Coding!? Is that just for old fogeys like me? ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/8 "2012-05-10T20:33:43Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Whatever happened to Xtreme Coding!? Is that just for old fogeys like me? That would be the tag-team programming I was talking about, I think. The Xtreme Silliness of the name no doubt caused me to dump it in the bit bucket. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/9 "2012-05-10T21:02:07Z")
We called it Paired Programming, for the _one_ Sprint Iteration before it was shouted down and the person responsible murdered. ---
**Author:** ![RalfCoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RalfCoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RalfCoder)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/10 "2012-05-10T21:05:44Z")
Never had them push the pair programming around my shop. We got our assignments and were sent to the cube farm to make it happen. I have diddled a few bits, tho… does that count? ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/11 "2012-05-10T21:29:39Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Whatever happened to Xtreme Coding!? Is that just for old fogeys like me? Extreme is out, these days it’s all about coding TO THE MAX!!! (You’ll get a syntax error without 3 exclamation marks). Step one: Forget “hello world”, you’ll want to start with “wassup dudes!”. Step two: Fill your code with comments about girls you totally tapped. Step three: Compile. Step four: Roll a fatty with your fellow brogrammers after a hard day’s work. Step five: If you followed these steps you don’t get the coding TO THE MAX!!! ethos and should stick to finding misplaced semicolons. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/12 "2012-05-10T22:15:47Z")
In other words, if you are already a qualified programmer, there’s no new competition coming over the horizon. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/13 "2012-05-10T23:29:53Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > That would be the tag-team programming I was talking about, I think. The Xtreme Silliness of the name no doubt caused me to dump it in the bit bucket. It perpetually pains me that our enterprise standard mainframe terminal app is called **Attachmate Extra! X-Treme.** I’m afraid to think what they’ll do to the name if they hit version 20 - probably call it Attachmate Extra! XXX-Treme! At least our programmers don’t get burdened with the silly flavor of the month. ---
**Author:** ![ripopgome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@ripopgome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ripopgome)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/14 "2012-05-11T01:08:49Z")
‘Brogramming’ reminds me of this April Fools’ video [Log in with Atlassian account](https://bitbucket.org/spooning/) which I still can’t manage to un-see. I have to admit I can imagine one of the fresh-out-of-college (but actually super talented) devs we hired recently actually uttering ''bro down and crush some code", although there would be much ridiculing and flinging of finger darts at his head afterward. ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/15 "2012-05-11T01:19:41Z")
I’m a girl programmer, can I “bro down”? Is “bro” like “dude” these days and applies to all genders? Or do I have to “sis down”, or something equally wussy? ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/16 "2012-05-11T02:07:25Z")
> [@Karen\_Lingel](#): > > I’m a girl programmer, can I “bro down”? Is “bro” like “dude” these days and applies to all genders? Or do I have to “sis down”, or something equally wussy? Too bad “hoedown” is taken. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/17 "2012-05-11T08:32:58Z")
> [@Karen\_Lingel](#): > > I’m a girl programmer Will you go out with me? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/18 "2012-05-11T20:12:29Z")
Nothing new here. I have an old Dilbert cartoon where he asks the Elbonians about their development methodology. “We hold village meetings to boast of our skills and curse the devil-spawned end-users.” “Sometimes we juggle.” “At the last minute we slam out some code and go roller-skating.” So, illegal Elbonian immigrants have taken over Elbo-gramming. ---
**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/19 "2012-05-11T23:39:45Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > Will you go out with me? I’m old enough to be your mom. But thanks! ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-software-folks-programmers/621448/20 "2012-05-12T00:10:59Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > I am so going to use _bro down and crush some code_ tomorrow at work. I believe you meant to say “brizzo down and crizzush some code”, or was that the 90’s?