# Fellow Trump voters: How do you think the Donald is doing so far. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 10, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849 "2017-03-10T07:38:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/281 "2017-03-13T03:47:08Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > And that doesnt scandalize you? After all, you appear to be of the opinion that transgender people should only go at home, or use the bathroom of their biological sex. She is not …asking for special privilege or something, is she? No, like I said, I have no problem with her using the female bathroom, obviously her using the male bathroom would cause a lot of problems ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/282 "2017-03-13T03:53:50Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You say that as if “illegals”, or “illegal aliens” is an inaccurate term. It’s not. It’s an accurate term to describe people who came into this country in an illegal manner. To a hypersensitive politically-correct person it might be, but it’s not. > > As for the other poster, what you’re doing is a false equivalency, comparing transgender people with blacks, Jews in regards to the bathroom issue. The science is clear in those regards, and they shouldn’t be discriminated against for their race or their religion. **Transgender people, on the other hand, are essentially asking for special privileges just because they underwent fancy sex-reassignment surgery, surgery which doesn’t change the fact that transgender women are still biologically male, and transgender men are still biologically women. Nice try.** Bolding mine. This doesn’t quite square with your last post. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/283 "2017-03-13T04:00:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > ‘Illegal aliens’ is accurate. ‘Illegal’ is an adjective. Language evolves. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/284 "2017-03-13T04:27:09Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > As for the other poster, what you’re doing is a false equivalency, comparing transgender people with blacks, Jews in regards to the bathroom issue. The science is clear in those regards, and they shouldn’t be discriminated against for their race or their religion. Transgender people, on the other hand, are essentially asking for special privileges just because they underwent fancy sex-reassignment surgery, surgery which doesn’t change the fact that transgender women are still biologically male, and transgender men are still biologically women. Nice try. First, what is the “science” preventing discrimination against Methodists? Or Episcopalians? Present your citations. Second, you prima facie know nothing about transgender issues, which begs the question of why you feel like pontificating on them. Third, I’ve summarized strong evidence that transgender men and women have intersex brain structure and function differences from XX and XY persons. This is well-known in medical science. Fourth, you ignore intersex persons such as myself, meaning once again you really don’t know anything of what you’re speaking. Fifth, there are no “special privileges” involved in being given the right to use a public restroom. It sounds just like when white supremacists described giving African Americans the right to vote a “special privilege.” Nice try yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/285 "2017-03-13T04:28:40Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > If they don’t undergo sex reassignment, then they’re simply cross-dressers, period. It’s a shame that medical and psychological science disagrees with you. Keep reaching for that rainbow. > [@](#): > > Why should they be allowed to use the women’s bathroom when they’re nothing more than biological men in dresses? And why should women be allowed to use the men bathroom when they’re just women who’ve undergone some attire changes as well? It would open the door to a whole host of abuse, etc. Wow, you aren’t even trying. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/286 "2017-03-13T05:33:53Z")
This problem can be solved by simply not giving a damn where somebody pees. Poof! Gone! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/287 "2017-03-13T10:51:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > ‘Illegal aliens’ is accurate. ‘Illegal’ is an adjective. I’m not sure I follow. I’ve seen “German” and “Canadian” and et cetera used as both nouns and adjectives – and, I thought, accurately, in both cases. Do you ever refer to “Blacks” and “Whites” and so on, even though they’re obviously Adjective People? If folks mention “the rich” and “the poor”, do you step in to object? How about back when “gays in the military” was the topic of debate? Or whatever, whenever? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/288 "2017-03-13T12:08:59Z")
Sure, there are some places people might pee that would be vexing. On your carpet, in the gas tank. But that’s not what I was talking about, and you guys all knew that. Most of you, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/289 "2017-03-13T12:30:21Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Do you ever refer to “Blacks” and “Whites” and so on, even though they’re obviously Adjective People? I’m not sure if they’re unacceptable _per se_, but “black people” and “white people” are preferred to these adjective-as-noun forms if you need to refer to their race. (Even these might not be _the_ preferred term but I am simply comparing them to the adjective forms.) (A weird exception to this is “woman” which I don’t think I’ll ever wrap my head around. Some people prefer to use “woman” as an adjective rather than “female”, which breaks my mind because it is a huge exception to the rule that adjectives-as-nouns and nouns-as-adjectives can be disrespectful.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/290 "2017-03-13T12:39:51Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I’m not sure if they’re unacceptable _per se_, but “black people” and “white people” are preferred to these adjective-as-noun forms if you need to refer to their race. (Even these might not be _the_ preferred term but I am simply comparing them to the adjective forms.) Well, fair enough, I guess, but I’ve seen it done on this board in general, and by that poster in particular – and with no more outcry than when someone refers to, oh, say, blondes. Or when someone starts talking about Republican Senators, and then says something about Republicans in the Senate. Heck, a thread just now sprang up with talk of “minority voters” and “minorities”. I don’t see the conceptual hurdle. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/291 "2017-03-13T13:34:41Z")
Only on this board would all the threads be about Trump except the threads about Trump. Personally I can’t wait for this new healthcare plan Trump has promised that is going to cover everyone, be simpler and cost everyone less. Mind you, if he doesn’t deliver, I’m sure all the people who complained about Obama’s “If you like your doctor, you can keep it” will equally be all over Trump’s claims. Yep, that’ll definitely happen. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/292 "2017-03-13T13:38:14Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Look, I realize that some transgender people have been harassed and targeted and even murdered. That is disgraceful, and it must stop and police must go to all lengths to catch those people. > > I also know they have a high suicide rate, which is tragic as well. No one is saying transgender people should be shunned from society; I knew a transgender girl student at one of my classes and I got along fine with her. > > All I’m saying is that we should look at this through an objective, fact-based, but compassionate manner, and look twist the Constitution like pretzels. The legislators who passed Title IX couldn’t possibly have known that it would ever be applied to transgender individuals, it was meant to protect women from sexist discrimination. That’s all Stop using the constitution to justify your biases. The constitution is not a divine document handed down from heaven to the founding fathers. The founding fathers were not omniscient or perfect. We know this because the constitution required multiple amendments (most recently in 1992) and could stand with a few more. It’s a good document, but it’s not a perfect document. Now, since you are so dedicated to drawing conclusions based on facts, did you read the links provided by other posters that present scientific evidenced on transgenderism? Do you agree with or do you dispute the scientific findings? If the latter, on what basis do you disagree with the scientific findings? If you disagree based on your personal beliefs, how do you justify that while making the claim that your beliefs are informed by “fact-based” data? I look forward to your thoughtful response. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/293 "2017-03-13T13:44:00Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Personally I can’t wait for this new healthcare plan Trump has promised that is going to cover everyone, be simpler and cost everyone less. Mind you, if he doesn’t deliver, I’m sure all the people who complained about Obama’s “If you like your doctor, you can keep it” will equally be all over Trump’s claims. Yep, that’ll definitely happen. And I’m sure everyone who gave Obama’s claims a pass will do likewise for Trump’s. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/294 "2017-03-13T14:09:38Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And I’m sure everyone who gave Obama’s claims a pass will do likewise for Trump’s. Au contraire, mon frer. They’ll eat that shit up just like all the other BS Trump throws at them. No, really, it’s better that the rich get the tax breaks, and that others lose coverage and services. Because in the end, it’s all Obama’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/295 "2017-03-13T14:14:39Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And I’m sure everyone who gave Obama’s claims a pass will do likewise for Trump’s. Given that even most supporters of PPACA thought it was a dumb thing to say I’m not sure that this really works in reverse. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/296 "2017-03-13T14:55:07Z")
I thought I’d see more claims of good deeds by the fans of Dolt 45. So far I’m seeing this: > [@ckalli1998](#): > > Personally, I’m satisfied with his performance, because so far, Trump has: > \*Repealed an Obama-era coal stream rule that would have resulted in the loss of jobs for tens of thousands of coal workers, in addition to the thousands already out of work > \*Signed an executive order reinstating the Mexico City Policy, which bans the funding of international health organizations that perform or promote the abortions of unborn children > \*Nominated the excellent Neil Gorsuch, a solid conservative jurist who will uphold the Constitution’s original meaning as written, to replace the late, great Antonin Scalia. > \*Presided over record-breaking stock market rallies, which have been coined the “Trump rallies”. > \*Given the ICE free reign to crack down on illegal aliens, particularly the criminal ones. Specifically, he unleashed them and gave them more power to apprehend aliens who were given a free pass simply because they hadn’t committed any violent crimes yet. The results are showing. In mid-February, the ICE rounded up 700 illegal aliens alone, 75 percent of whom had criminal records (they’re not all warm and fuzzy, as the Left would have us believe). > \*coordinating the investing of billions of dollars into the United States with companies such as General Motors, Softbank Lockheed, etc. which will create tens of thousands of jobs. > \*Repealed a ridiculous last-day rule passed by the Obama administration which banned wildlife hunters from using lead bullets, despite the fact that it would cause thousands to stop hunting because of the high price of non-lead ammo, and the fact that scientific studies don’t show any real long-term harm to wildlife from using them when hunting. Regarding the first point- he appears to be advocating the notion that all environmental rules be abandoned if they could conceiveably be in conflict with industry. Well, too bad. We need these laws because of industry. What is killing coal is not the pollution it causes, it’s that it can’t compete with other energy sources. Coal is dying, let us pull the plug. Every Republican president reinstates that silly gag rule preventing health service providers from referring people to abortion providers. We have to agree to disagree about abortion, you may call them “unborn children” but I think they’re more accurately referred to in the first trimester as pre-human clumps of cells. He could have done worse than Gorsuch, but it wasn’t his seat to fill. It was Obama’s. Scalia may be late, but he was hardly great. Your quote “aliens who were given a free pass simply because they hadn’t committed any violent crimes yet” is quite telling. You view all immigrants as future criminals, which is sad. This is just standard right wing xenophobia and bigotry. He deserves no credit for these corporations who have announced investments in the US, these decisions have been made long ago. Ask the people of Flint if lead is a fine thing to be leaving all over the place. So the hunters have to pay more for ammo. Cry me a river. > [@Velocity](#): > > Illegal immigration down 40% > Dow Jones hits 21,000 points > Job growth robust > Nominated Neil Gorsuch > Proposes $54 billion increase in defense spending First of all, it’s hard to measure how many are sneaking across. What we’re seeing is a mean-spirited crackdown on people who want to come here and do the work that Americans won’t do, similar in the way that Dolt 45 can’t find an American wife and has to import them. The Dow had quite a ride under Obama. I can’t get excited about a momentary bump. Job growth has been robust for the past seven years. Of course, Dolt 45 says that those numbers were phony, but when the same people produce them now, they’re accurate. Already addressed Gorsuch. The defense spending I don’t get. We’re already spending nearly as much as the rest of the world combined. The military was NOT depleted under Obama. This buildup is unhealthy and yet another parallel to Nazi Germany of the 1930s. > [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > He gets an A from me. > > I don’t like his health care plan or his fondness for pet projects (ie, high speed rail), but overall he’s doing the things I want. If he gets serious and engages in real entitlement reform, I’ll consider him the best president since at least Reagan. Best since Reagan is faint praise, as Reagan was the 2nd worst (to W) president ever. Still, OMG couldn’t name a single accomplishment. > [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > I think Trump is doing a wonderful job so far. > > The only lies that will matter will be broken campaign promises. > > I’m basically a one issue voter. As long as I hear about vigorous deportations, Trump is good in my book. I loved it when an illegal held a press conference and then was immediately detained by ICE for deportation. If we’re going to enforce laws like ones against videotaping professors, then we should enforce our immigration laws. This illustrates the meanness of Republican voters. From aldiboronti: > [@](#): > > The strengthening of the border is good, I’m all for tough border controls, without them a country leaves itself open to all sorts of ills and what harms the US usually ends up harming us in the UK. (And I see that illegal immigration across the southern border is 40% down since Trump took office.) > > Mending fences with Russia is good for everybody and his tone becoming President makes me hopeful for some kind of detente with that nation. > > His action concerning the Dakota Access pipeline is also promising, making me hopeful that most of the needless constraints on industry will be loosened or abolished. > > Talk about allowing individual states to decide on bathroom gender issues I have no issue with. Allow the states to decide these things for themselves, it seems to me that’s the inherently democratic road to take. If they take a conservative view on the matter so be it. I’m not seeing how bullying would be any worse for transgenders either way. If transgender boys are going to be bullied when they use the boys’ bathroom it’s likely they’ll be bullied throughout the school, including waylaying them as they come out of the girls’ bathroom. Bullies are bullies, Federal advice notices won’t change that. As for the feelings of the transgenders themselves I guess you have to balance that with the feelings of other bathroom users and decide which matters most. (My own feeling is that it’s the feelings of the transgender that are more important here when balanced against the rather antiquated views of others. But who am I tell individual states which position they should or should not take?) “Tough border controls” generally translates to “OMG we can’t have people coming in who don’t look like me and don’t have the same faith as I do!” The onus is on Putin to “mend fences”. There’s a difference between mending fences and encouraging Putin’s lawlessness. The Dakota access line is for the purpose of allowing dirty Canadian oil to get into the world market easier. It does nothing for the US. Your rights should not be dependent on which state you are in. In all that I don’t see a single thing to be proud of. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/297 "2017-03-13T15:18:42Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > If folks mention “the rich” and “the poor”, do you step in to object? How about back when “gays in the military” was the topic of debate? Or whatever, whenever? ‘Illegals’ is meant to be a pejorative term. It’s a shibboleth Right Minded Americans use. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/298 "2017-03-13T15:35:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > ‘Illegals’ is meant to be a pejorative term. It’s a shibboleth Right Minded Americans use. But you said “illegal aliens” is accurate. Surely what’s pejorative about “illegals” is merely whatever is pejorative about accurately noting that some aliens are “illegal”. There’s nothing pejorative about saying “he writes mystery novels,” and so there’s nothing pejorative about saying “he writes mysteries” – in much the same way that people use “African-American” as a perfectly good adjective, and then use it as a perfectly good noun. And, again, that’s why “gays in the military” worked. I guess a pejorative adjective would be a pejorative noun – but if so, then what difference does it make whether it’s an adjective or a noun? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/299 "2017-03-13T16:33:53Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But you said “illegal aliens” is accurate. Surely what’s pejorative about “illegals” is merely whatever is pejorative about accurately noting that some aliens are “illegal”. Usage. The people who call aliens who are illegally in the country ‘illegals’ are the ones who do not like them, often because of their colour or language. The usage makes it derogatory. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849/300 "2017-03-13T17:14:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Usage. The people who call aliens who are illegally in the country ‘illegals’ are the ones who do not like them, often because of their colour or language. The usage makes it derogatory. But – look, flip it around; imagine someone genuinely doesn’t like you, and so uses words like, oh, say, “deplorables” and “irredeemable”. Would you be placated if such a person hastened to assure you that, _oh, hey, I’m not saying you’re a deplorable; it’s just that you are deplorable. I’d never say you’re an irredeemable; you simply are irredeemable. Adjective, not noun – so it’s not derogatory, see?_ Would you find that at all persuasive? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fellow-trump-voters-how-do-you-think-the-donald-is-doing-so-far/781849.md?page=16)