# Felony Conviction for Casually Recording Friend's Sex Act **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 20, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005 "2013-07-20T03:35:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/21 "2013-07-20T19:41:37Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > They were 20. People make bad decisions at 20. Raping a 15 year old and then distributing child porn is past a “bad decision”. If you made those kind of “bad decisions” at 20 (or any other age!) you should also be in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/22 "2013-07-20T19:51:20Z")
Criminals are getting dumber and dumber. Filming yourself committing a felony and putting it on the internet is dipshit stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/23 "2013-07-20T19:52:43Z")
Is the OP ever coming back to explain what we’re supposed to be discussing here? ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/24 "2013-07-20T19:53:46Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Raping a 15 year old and then distributing child porn is past a “bad decision”. If you made those kind of “bad decisions” at 20 (or any other age!) you should also be in prison. +1 The op’s title pisses me off. What’s so fucking casual about recording child porn? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/25 "2013-07-20T20:14:54Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > They were 20. People make bad decisions at 20. This wasn’t just a bad decision. They were old enough to know better. If they were all 15 I might have a little sympathy for the bad decision but these young men should not have been hanging out with a 15 year old. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/26 "2013-07-20T20:58:30Z")
My immediate thought is, “What is it with people committing crimes and _recording_ them?” OK, it _was_ a good thing from the perspective of justice being done that they _were_ that stupid, but really; master criminals these guys are not. They take a “he said/she said” situation, document their crime on video, and _then_ start distributing the video just to make _sure_ they didn’t risk getting away with their crime. Maybe they should have just done it in a police station in front of the desk sergent, to cut out the middlemen and get matters over with faster. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/27 "2013-07-20T21:19:24Z")
**Felony Conviction for Feloniously Recording Friend’s Felonious Sex Act** Fixed that title for you, OP. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/28 "2013-07-20T21:27:02Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Criminals are getting dumber and dumber. Filming yourself committing a felony and putting it on the internet is dipshit stupid. I was dealing with criminals back in early eighties. And they were already dumb as rocks back then. The only reason they weren’t going to prison for things like this was they didn’t have video cameras and the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/29 "2013-07-20T22:40:02Z")
I, like everyone else in this thread, am confused on why you posted this. These guys got charged for having sex with a 15 year old minor at 20 years old and recording it. As they should have. Why are you butt hurt about this? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/30 "2013-07-20T22:55:12Z")
> [@Tequila\_Party](#): > > Is the OP ever coming back to explain what we’re supposed to be discussing here? I went through some of the threads he/she started and that appears to be a pattern. He/she starts a thread, doesn’t offer an opinion in the OP and doesn’t return to discuss it further. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/31 "2013-07-21T00:13:52Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I went through some of the threads he/she started and that appears to be a pattern. He/she starts a thread, doesn’t offer an opinion in the OP and doesn’t return to discuss it further. Huh. Then they ought to close this puppy as too stupid to live. Bad form OP. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/32 "2013-07-21T00:17:36Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > They were 20. People make bad decisions at 20. and they’re responsible for those decisions. please tell me you’re not one of those loonies who believe people are literally children until age 25. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/33 "2013-07-21T00:39:32Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > and they’re responsible for those decisions. > > please tell me you’re not one of those loonies who believe people are literally children until age 25. That’s just stupid. You become an adult at 45 these days. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/34 "2013-07-21T02:56:42Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > This wasn’t just a bad decision. They were old enough to know better. If they were all 15 I might have a little sympathy for the bad decision but these young men should not have been hanging out with a 15 year old. Never said they should have been, the vast majority of people make it through their 20s w/o engaging in serious crimes. The point was that stupidity is not as unexpected when a young adult. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/35 "2013-07-21T04:01:18Z")
So was this thread an experiment intended to see if it was possible to get a bunch of Dopers to agree on something? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/36 "2013-07-21T04:08:07Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Cowman and Smith get felony convictions. I’m good with this. Next! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/37 "2013-07-21T04:29:30Z")
The new technologies make it so much easier to take Felony Stupidity to the next level… > [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > So whether or not the sex act was legal under the statutory rape or age of consent provisions of the law, it was still illegal to film it because the girl was under 18. I can see no provision in the law that addresses the issue of filming with or without the consent of the girl. It appears that it would have been illegal even if she had given her consent. It would probably even have been illegal if she had filmed herself having sex. Right. The no-minors-in-porn laws are very clear cut about it: it’s illegal to make videos of actual minors having sex and to distribute them, regardless of assent of the minors themselves or of profit or lack thereof. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/38 "2013-07-21T05:34:17Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > The no-minors-in-porn laws are very clear cut about it: it’s illegal to make videos of actual minors having sex and to distribute them, regardless of assent of the minors themselves or of profit or lack thereof. But the lack of consent in this case eliminates whatever plausible argument could possibly have been made in justification of what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/39 "2013-07-21T13:34:34Z")
Ok, setting aside the fact that the girl was a minor, filming anybody performing a sex act without their knowledge and distributing it is pretty heinous. Would the story really sound all that much better if the girl was 18 instead? I personally don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005/40 "2013-07-21T13:53:47Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > So was this thread an experiment intended to see if it was possible to get a bunch of Dopers to agree on something? You have to admit that’s pretty impressive on it’s own. If we could get Bricker in here to complete the unanimous consensus, we’d have a lock. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/felony-conviction-for-casually-recording-friends-sex-act/664005.md?page=3)