# FEMA employee fired after advising hurricane relief team not to visit Florida homes with Donald Trump signs **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086 "2024-11-11T17:51:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BorealisCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@BorealisCooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorealisCooper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/1 "2024-11-11T17:51:12Z")
Unconscionable in my opinion. There will be an investigation. What is your opinion ? [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/fema-employee-fired-advising-disaster-relief-team-not-visit-homes-sign-rcna179472](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/fema-employee-fired-advising-disaster-relief-team-not-visit-homes-sign-rcna179472) ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/2 "2024-11-11T17:52:46Z")
I don’t understand how that employee thought they could get away with it. There would certainly have been at least one or a few Trump-supporting people on the relief team (or elsewhere, who would have gotten wind of it) who would have gone nuts about being given such instructions, and leaked it. ---
**Author:** ![BorealisCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@BorealisCooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorealisCooper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/3 "2024-11-11T17:59:17Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I also don’t understand how that employee thought they could get away with it. That’s the most disturbing part , snd hopefully what an investigation will find. Why did this person feel emboldened enough to do this. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/4 "2024-11-11T18:00:28Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > Why did this person feel emboldened enough to do this. Fear that people sent to pro-Trump homes would be attacked or killed? ---
**Author:** ![BorealisCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@BorealisCooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorealisCooper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/5 "2024-11-11T18:19:07Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Fear that people sent to pro-Trump homes would be attacked or killed? Let me think about this. There is a family whose life has been turned upside down due to this catastrophe and they don’t know how they will survive this. Yeah. They probably will attack and kill somebody offering to help them, were that offer to come. It didn’t. Good and reasonable answer 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/6 "2024-11-11T18:29:01Z")
Harris supporters don’t think that the government created the Hurricanes. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/7 "2024-11-11T18:31:00Z")
[https://thehill.com/homenews/4936262-fema-threatened-armed-group-tennessee/](https://thehill.com/homenews/4936262-fema-threatened-armed-group-tennessee/) [https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/10/13/federal-officials-nc-temporarily-relocated-amid-report-armed-militia-email-shows/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/10/13/federal-officials-nc-temporarily-relocated-amid-report-armed-militia-email-shows/) [https://www.afge.org/publication/nations-largest-federal-union-condemns-fearmongering-threats-and-misinformation-against-fema-workers/](https://www.afge.org/publication/nations-largest-federal-union-condemns-fearmongering-threats-and-misinformation-against-fema-workers/) [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-10-25/documents-show-chilling-threats-to-fema-workers](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-10-25/documents-show-chilling-threats-to-fema-workers) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/8 "2024-11-11T18:31:42Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > There would certainly have been at least one or a few Trump-supporting people on the relief team (or elsewhere, who would have gotten wind of it) who would have gone nuts about being given such instructions, and leaked it. There would certainly have been at least one or more Harris-supporting people on the team who would have gone nuts about this also. Not only because this is a clear violation of FEMA’s mission but also because the fall-out for this violation will be a gain for Trump and conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![BorealisCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@BorealisCooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorealisCooper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/9 "2024-11-11T18:43:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There would certainly have been at least one or more Harris-supporting people on the team who would have gone nuts about this also. Not only because this is a clear violation of FEMA’s mission but also because the fall-out for this violation will be a gain for Trump and conservatives. Are some of you actually insinuating this didn’t happen ? FEMA has fired the lady and in the ensuing investigation she may indict others. This is probably going to be a big deal. [Click me](https://www.google.com/search?q=fema+employee+fired&client=safari&sca_esv=1d2fbb10e57e1f9d&channel=iphone_bm&sxsrf=ADLYWIJYINF9dsAiWUhI50bUIMJlX7oBeQ%3A1731350281189&source=hp&ei=CU8yZ-6BCZPep84PoMLn-Q8&oq=fe&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCICZmUqAggAMgQQIxgnMgoQIxiABBgnGIoFMgoQIxiABBgnGIoFMg4QLhiABBiRAhjUAhiKBTILEAAYgAQYkQIYigUyDhAuGIAEGJECGNQCGIoFMggQABiABBixAzIOEC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYxwFI9hZQ1whYpgxwAngAkAEAmAGbAaABhAKqAQMwLjK4AQHIAQD4AQGYAgSgAqcCqAIPwgIHECMYJxjqAsICDRAuGMcBGCcY6gIYrwHCAgcQLhgnGOoCwgIQEC4YxwEYJxjqAhiOBRivAcICCxAuGIAEGJECGIoFwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAhEQLhiABBixAxjRAxiDARjHAZgDDpIHAzIuMqAHgB0&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/10 "2024-11-11T18:49:47Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > Let me think about this. > > There is a family whose life has been turned upside down due to this catastrophe and they don’t know how they will survive this. > > Yeah. They probably will attack and kill somebody offering to help them, were that offer to come. It didn’t. > > Good and reasonable answer 👍 The links that @duality72 shared show that, in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene doing massive damage in western North Carolina and eastern Tennessee (very red areas), there were numerous threats of violence against FEMA workers. That doesn’t excuse what the FEMA employee in your OP did, in the slightest, however. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/11 "2024-11-11T18:50:37Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Not only because this is a clear violation of FEMA’s mission but also because the fall-out for this violation will be a gain for Trump and conservatives. Yeah, good thing this didn’t happen before the election. 😶‍🌫️. Harris may have lost by a bigger margin. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/12 "2024-11-11T18:51:33Z")
I can’t tell what you’re after with this thread, but here’s my take: Much like the **[text messages](https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/09/us/racist-texts-black-people-investigation-what-we-know/index.html)** alerting African-Americans that they’re going to be pressed into slave duty again, whether those texts came from a rabid MAGA sort or were a false flag tactic from a die-hard liberal group, it was repugnant, repellant, and reprehensible, and should be repudiated in the strongest possible terms. Same with the action of this FEMA employee. Firing is step one. Step two is vehemently reinforcing the message to the entirety of the agency that this is _not_ who we are. The fish rots from the head. Trump is poison to this country. Poison doesn’t always honor political boundaries. I’m sorry that Trump’s poison bled over into this asshole’s on-the-job performance. ---
**Author:** ![BorealisCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@BorealisCooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorealisCooper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/13 "2024-11-11T18:55:57Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I can’t tell what you’re after with this thread I’m basically going after the fact that it’s reprehensible and that there will probably be a lot of fallout. Well, plus it was extremely stupid. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/14 "2024-11-11T18:58:32Z")
Seems like more of a Pit thread to me. But, yeah, this is utterly stupid. Even if the idea was being scared about being attacked, it doesn’t take but a second’s more thought to realize how it would come across. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/15 "2024-11-11T18:58:53Z")
I think the only materially different opinions you might expect to see _today_ would come as a result of the combination of grief and shock that a relative few might still feel from the results of this election. Which also quite likely explains – but does not excuse – the action in the story itself. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/16 "2024-11-11T19:03:22Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > Are some of you actually insinuating this didn’t happen ? I’m certainly not insinuating that and I don’t see anything I said that would imply that. A FEMA employee said something very wrong. FEMA fired the employee and publicly denounced them. Meanwhile De Santis is launching an investigation saying this proves the entire federal government is politicized by Democrats. If that was true then the employee wouldn’t have been fired. What actually happened demonstrates that FEMA isn’t politicized and won’t tolerate attempts at politicization. So what is De Santis investigating? My guess is that De Santis and other Republicans are planning on using this incident as an excuse to introduce politicization into FEMA and the rest of the federal government. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/17 "2024-11-11T19:10:25Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My guess is that De Santis and other Republicans are planning on using this incident as an excuse to introduce politicization into FEMA and the rest of the federal government. - They need an excuse? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/18 "2024-11-11T19:15:36Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > There is a family whose life has been turned upside down due to this catastrophe and they don’t know how they will survive this. > > Yeah. They probably will attack and kill somebody offering to help them, were that offer to come. As others have posted, there were genuine threats against FEMA workers. Having said that: my opinion of the story in the OP is that yeah, they should have been fired; and no, they shouldn’t have given that advice. Advising FEMA people to stay away from a specific property because they’d been threatened at that property/by that property’s resident(s)/owner(s) would have been OK. Advising them to stay away from all properties in a given area because there had been too many threats in that general area would have been unpleasant, but possibly justified. Advising them to keep working in an area but to discriminate according to apparent politics of the residents was way out of line. > [@BorealisCooper](#): > > I’m basically going after the fact that it’s reprehensible and that there will probably be a lot of fallout. > > Well, plus it was extremely stupid It puzzles me that you phrased that by asking what we think about it; as if you thought we’d defend it. > [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > an excuse to introduce politicization into FEMA and the rest of the federal government. - > > They need an excuse? They already said, before the election, that they’re going to do that. The majority of the voting population apparently didn’t find that reprehensible. I will grant that some of them probably believed the lies that it had already happened in the other direction. As has been posted, FEMA’s reaction to this incident proves that this wasn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![BorealisCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@BorealisCooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorealisCooper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/19 "2024-11-11T19:22:30Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > It puzzles me that you phrased that by asking what we think about it; as if you thought we’d defend it. It is against board rules on many forums to post a link without discussion. Therefore, invite discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086/20 "2024-11-11T19:35:21Z")
> [@BorealisCooper](#): > > > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > > I can’t tell what you’re after with this thread > > I’m basically going after the fact that it’s reprehensible and that there will probably be a lot of fallout. So, pearl-clutching and breathless exhortations over an action that has already been addressed by firing the person in question, it seems. Lame, anemic, gormless…rant(?) about how Trumpists are being “victimized” writ large. I give this 2.1 shrinking violets out of a possible 10. Stranger [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fema-employee-fired-after-advising-hurricane-relief-team-not-to-visit-florida-homes-with-donald-trump-signs/1010086.md?page=2)