No, what I’m saying that, even though The Thing was a flop, he should still be in there.
So? even with your bungled stats (End of Days is action packed), he’d still qualify as an action star. 81% is a very large percentage.
He wouldn’t make the top 4 cut to get on the mountain though, because lots of cheesy B-movie guys have ONLY done action, so their 100% makes them more of an action star than Arnold using your objective measure.
Would you rank Jeff Speakman ahead of Arnold? Speakman has a higher % of action movies.
I’m not saying that they should be ranked according to their percentages, I’m saying that they should have a strong percentage to be considered an Action Hero at all.
I would disagree. If anything, actors and actresses who have more range than just action movies tend to make better action movies. From a male action hero perspective, that reasoning would exclude Matt Damon, Keanu Reeves, Ben Affleck, Harrison Ford, and I’m sure others who are not coming immediately to mind, and all of those names have strong action movie star credentials (and only half of those, IMHO, have a chance of making the top 4). The list for female action stars gets much much smaller simply due to the dearth of roles. I believe if one is talking who belongs on Female Action Star Mount Rushmore, Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton belong in the conversation more than a Michelle Yeoh. They are inarguably more influential. You don’t put Grover Cleveland, Dwight Eisenhower, or James Madison on Mount Rushmore just because they were two-term presidents.
Sure. But they do need to have been Presidents, not just any person who occasionally dabbled in politics.
The definition of President is pretty clear. You get a ceremony and all. Where we disagree is in the definition of Action Star. To me that’s not just any actor who’s ever taken an action role at some point, just like any actor who’s done a comedy isn’t a comedic actor.
Isn’t this thread meant to be about female action stars? Why is all the talk about men?
If you want to draw a line that excludes every female actor - except one who hasn’t done any action movies for a decade (and only one in the previous decade) but somehow still counts - then feel free to do so, but there are good reasons that fewer women cross that line than men. There just aren’t that many female action roles to begin with, so why hold women to the same standard as men who have a much larger number of opportunities?
Look at any list of action movies from the last forty years or so (back to when Arnie started) and almost all of them are lead by men. Most of the roles couldn’t have been played by a woman instead. So obviously it’s easier for a man to have been in multiple action movies and harder for women. For a woman to have appeared in as many leading action roles as Schwarzenegger she’d have had to headline practically every female-lead action movie for that time period. That’s an impossible standard to hold anyone to.
One of the genres that is mostly female-led is romcoms. It would be very, very easy to think of a Mount Rushmore of female romcom stars who are known mostly for romcoms, and harder for men, because men are expected (and allowed, due to the wider variety of available roles) to do lots of roles that aren’t romcoms. So I’d apply different standards for men there, in case anyone thinks I’m being somehow unfair to men here.t
Carrie-Anne Moss - Matrix Trilogy
Angelina Jolie - Salt, Wanted, Tomb Raider, Maleficent, Mr. & Mrs. Smith
Maggie Q - Nikita, Priest, Naked Weapon, Three Kingdoms, Mission: Impossible III, Live Free or Die Hard
Brigitte Nielsen - Red Sonja, Rocky IV, Conan