# Female dopers, would you comply with a mugger or rapist? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 26, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473 "2017-05-26T14:12:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![femmejean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/0ea827/32.png) [@femmejean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/femmejean)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/1 "2017-05-26T14:12:23Z")
It’s not the most comfortable topic for anyone to think about, but I think it’s important to envision the possibility of being attacked by someone for sexual gratification or financial gain even when you don’t live in a ‘sketchy’ area. Focusing on women, would you comply if a mugger came up to you and asked you for your money or would you try and fight back depending on the perpetrators gender, size, and type of weapons? If you did comply but the man (or woman) wanted to sexually assault you, would you fight back or just go along with them? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/2 "2017-05-26T14:21:24Z")
The fantasy feeding questions are becoming tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/3 "2017-05-26T14:29:59Z")
There should be another choice: “I don’t know.” That would be my answer today. It’s difficult (maybe impossible) to know what you would do in any dangerous, life/safety-threatening situation before it happens. Unless you actually have some kind of serious martial arts/combat/police training that would just kick in reflexively. For an ordinary citizen who has never encountered violence or even force… I can’t predict what I would do. It would probably depend on the circumstances, whether a weapon was involved, whether I felt my life was truly in danger, how mentally/emotionally strong I was feeling… too many variables to account for outside of the situation. I dearly hope I never have to find out, and that goes for everyone on this board, male or female, \*and all their relations. \*Amen. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/4 "2017-05-26T14:35:45Z")
How did I know exactly who started this thread before seeing it? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/5 "2017-05-26T14:44:10Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > How did I know exactly who started this thread before seeing it? Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![DeepLiquid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deepliquid/32/14893_2.png) [@DeepLiquid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeepLiquid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/6 "2017-05-26T14:55:53Z")
femmejean - tell me why you want to know, and I’ll consider answering. I politely answered your question in another thread and you couldn’t bothered with the decency of an acknowledgement, so there seems little point in bothering with your endless threads. ---
**Author:** ![femmejean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/0ea827/32.png) [@femmejean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/femmejean)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/7 "2017-05-26T15:04:02Z")
> [@DeepLiquid](#): > > femmejean - tell me why you want to know, and I’ll consider answering. I politely answered your question in another thread and you couldn’t bothered with the decency of an acknowledgement, so there seems little point in bothering with your endless threads. I don’t know…As someone said, it’s just an interesting scenario to imagine. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/8 "2017-05-26T15:05:41Z")
> [@DeepLiquid](#): > > femmejean - tell me why you want to know, and I’ll consider answering. I politely answered your question in another thread and you couldn’t bothered with the decency of an acknowledgement, so there seems little point in bothering with your endless threads. It is more than obvious his motivations from the focus of the majority of his threads, whatever pretext might be created. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/9 "2017-05-26T15:18:37Z")
It seems to be a default response for victims of sexual assault to completely freeze up, and is often a source of shame and remorse for the victim. I work for a domestic violence and sexual assault shelter, and according to the nurses who perform forensic examinations in the immediate aftermath of sexual assault, one of the most common things they hear is the ‘‘confession’’ that the victim froze up and felt like they couldn’t move. There’s actually a scientific term for this that I forget, during training we saw a demonstration video of this sort of temporary physiological paralysis in an animal during periods of high stress. ETA: It’s called [_tonic immobility_](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/23/why-many-rape-victims-dont-fight-or-yell/?utm_term=.fec8e142da50) And of course one of the most common attacks launched on assault survivors was ''Why didn’t you fight back?" The answer may very well be, ‘‘I was physiologically incapable of doing so.’’ FWIW, I froze up, I hate that I froze up, and I often engage in fantasies of unleashing a flurry of attacks against my abuser, little good it does now. (Or would have done then - he was an experienced martial artist.) If this is some kind of fetish of yours, as some of the comments here seem to imply, I would advise you to consider when asking questions like these that for many of us, there is nothing theoretical about this, and it’s pretty gross to intentionally get off on the trauma of other people. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/10 "2017-05-26T15:21:50Z")
> [@femmejean](#): > > I don’t know…As someone said, it’s just an interesting scenario to imagine. Interesting is picking a restaurant for dinner. Speculating how someone may respond to a violent crime does not seem “interesting” to me. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/11 "2017-05-26T15:26:25Z")
> [@femmejean](#): > > **Female dopers, . . .** > . . . > Focusing on women, . . . Any particular reason for limiting your query to women? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/12 "2017-05-26T15:54:44Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > Any particular reason for limiting your query to women? Please feel free to start your own thread and include who you would like to see answers from. I’m sure most would welcome it. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/13 "2017-05-26T16:03:40Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Please feel free to start your own thread and include who you would like to see answers from. I’m sure most would welcome it. I wouldn’t find that “interesting”. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/14 "2017-05-26T16:07:13Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > The fantasy feeding questions are becoming tiresome. Extremely. ---
**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/15 "2017-05-26T17:00:01Z")
Possibly removing any prurient value for the OP, I’ve read that a good idea if possible in the face of potential sexual assault is to go completely limp (maybe not voluntary in the shock of the moment) and to urinate or poop if you can, to make yourself as much of a pain to move and as gross as possible. I think this is probably more practical in the rare situation where someone is attacked by a stranger unexpectedly, but the inclusion of ‘mugger’ in the theme makes me think the idea is a stranger-attack. Of course, there’s also the possibility your attacker would just murder you in a rage. Sure is fun to contemplate! ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/16 "2017-05-26T17:08:24Z")
Since he askes [the questions like women do you want to have the scat/urinie sex fetish](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812025), you have not removed any of his fantasy fodder, only improved on it. Do no fool yourself about this. ---
**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/17 "2017-05-26T17:10:55Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Since he askes [the questions like women do you want to have the scat/urinie sex fetish](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812025), you have not removed any of his fantasy fodder, only improved on it. > > Do no fool yourself about this. Well, I guess that shows me for underestimating people. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/18 "2017-05-26T18:11:08Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > The fantasy feeding questions are becoming tiresome. Yes, and that’s why I’m not participating in this poll. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/19 "2017-05-26T18:13:30Z")
> [@femmejean](#): > > I don’t know…As someone said, it’s just an interesting scenario to imagine. Assault and rape are interesting to imagine?? You are one sick fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473/20 "2017-05-26T18:16:30Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Yes, and that’s why I’m not participating in this poll. neither did I for this reason. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-dopers-would-you-comply-with-a-mugger-or-rapist/787473.md?page=2)