# Female Fan of Palin? Consider this...

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 14, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-fan-of-palin-consider-this/463592 "2008-09-14T20:05:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-fan-of-palin-consider-this/463592/21 "2008-09-15T11:23:29Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> And I doubt if anything changed when Golda Meir was president of Israel, and the Yom Kippour war broke out. Or under Bhutto’s reign of Pakistan.

Nothing changed because Israel already had a female draft, in place since its foundation. I don’t think Prime Minister (not president) Meir made any alterations to it.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-fan-of-palin-consider-this/463592/22 "2008-09-15T14:33:06Z")

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I don’t see the connection between Palin as VP and women getting drafted. From everything I’ve heard about her, she’d be as vehemently opposed to women serving in the armed forces as pretty much anything else she’s credited as being vehemently opposed to.

Isn’t this more appropriately a question to McCain supporters?

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-fan-of-palin-consider-this/463592/23 "2008-09-15T15:24:32Z")

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> [@fiztig](#):
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> I think the military would be pretty concerned about a draft. Considering the general unfitness of the population it would take a year of basic training a’la “Biggest Loser” style to get a large number of people in shape for combat - both male and female.

You got that right. I threw away all of my old recruiting stuff a year or so ago, but we had to keep track of things like how many people it took an individual recruiter to interview to find one qualified applicant. The average for our area was about 15 to 20 people IIRC. To find ONE person. This includes the ASVAB and the physical BTW.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-fan-of-palin-consider-this/463592/24 "2008-09-15T15:38:20Z")

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The draft is a nonstarter. Women looking into Palin’s character (and people in general) will, I hope, be much more interested to hear that she’s exactly the sort of grudge-holding Mean Girl everybody hated when they were teenagers, who is, indeed, using her powers to pursue old arguments _from high school:_

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> Last summer, state House Speaker John Harris, a Republican, picked up his phone and heard Todd Palin’s voice. The governor’s husband wanted to know why Harris had hired John Bitney, a high-school classmate of the Palins, as his chief of staff. Gov. Palin had fired him as an aide after learning that he had fallen in love with another longtime friend.
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> “I understood from the call that Todd wasn’t happy with me hiring John and he’d like to see him not there,” Harris said. “The Palin family gets upset at personal issues. And at our level, they want to strike back.”

[More here](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008178167_palin14.html). Read and be appalled.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-fan-of-palin-consider-this/463592/25 "2008-09-16T14:24:44Z")

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I’m not exactly sure how Palin being VP makes a draft for women more or less possible. She’s not exactly consistent when it comes to women’s rights (thought it’s a little difficult to argue ‘equal rights, equal responsibility’ when female soldiers have more chance of being sexually assaulted by a fellow soldier than being killed by enemy gunfire). As for women being drafted at all, in theory, I can’t understand how they _wouldn’t_ be. And that’s likely what would prevent the draft.

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