# Female-Only Services **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 12, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298 "2014-09-12T16:06:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/41 "2014-09-15T12:18:28Z")
I don’t know what the Workman’s Comp laws are in places that use “petrol,” but here in Georgia an assault on a female employee by a _co-worker, robber or customer_, including rape, would be a WC claim …unless it could be shown the attack was the result of an outside relationship. If that’s the case, the employee might be only on the hook for faulty security systems. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/42 "2014-09-15T13:36:31Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > Good grief. I sure hope she doesn’t take cabs on roads with potholes, or there might be some _Pulp Fiction_ action going on. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/43 "2014-09-15T14:47:55Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I will not ride alone in a cab with a male driver unless I have my hand gun with me. And my hand will be in my purse with fingers on the trigger. I have had too many close calls to do otherwise. Men who consider a female-only livery service such a bad thing should consider that women who have had negative experiences with men are not going to be tolerant of any threatening or questionable behavior by a male driver. A lot of situations that could turn dangerous (or if not dangerous at least job jeopardizing) could be avoided if women have an option of not being forced alone with a man. Remind me never to be in whatever ZIP code you’re in at any given moment. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/44 "2014-09-15T15:06:49Z")
Usually, if you’re in a car with a handgun pointed at the driver and your finger on the trigger, you’re not planning to pay for the ride. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/45 "2014-09-15T15:22:17Z")
The driver certainly shouldn’t count on a tip. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/46 "2014-09-15T16:03:15Z")
And god help him if he tries to shake her hand after the ride. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/47 "2014-09-15T16:13:37Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I will not ride alone in a cab with a male driver unless I have my hand gun with me. And my hand will be in my purse with fingers on the trigger. I have had too many close calls to do otherwise. Men who consider a female-only livery service such a bad thing should consider that women who have had negative experiences with men are not going to be tolerant of any threatening or questionable behavior by a male driver. A lot of situations that could turn dangerous (or if not dangerous at least job jeopardizing) could be avoided if women have an option of not being forced alone with a man. The first time I read this, I thought “my God, she’s so… exaggerated”. Then a while later I remembered that the two times I’ve been in a licensed cab that looked like it came from the set of a Snake Plissen movie, driven by guys who probably shouldn’t be allowed in the company of women, it was in Philadelphia. There are some damn scary cabbies there. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/48 "2014-09-15T16:48:11Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > The first time I read this, I thought “my God, she’s so… exaggerated”. She also posted that handshakes by a male are akin to rape, so your first thoughts aren’t far off. ---
**Author:** ![Mikahw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Mikahw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikahw)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/49 "2014-09-15T16:58:08Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I will not ride alone in a cab with a male driver unless I have my hand gun with me. And my hand will be in my purse with fingers on the trigger. I have had too many close calls to do otherwise. Men who consider a female-only livery service such a bad thing should consider that women who have had negative experiences with men are not going to be tolerant of any threatening or questionable behavior by a male driver. A lot of situations that could turn dangerous (or if not dangerous at least job jeopardizing) could be avoided if women have an option of not being forced alone with a man. Come on, finger off the trigger until you’re ready to fire. Have fun shooting yourself in the thigh. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/50 "2014-09-15T17:19:56Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > The first time I read this, I thought “my God, she’s so… exaggerated”. Then a while later I remembered that the two times I’ve been in a licensed cab that looked like it came from the set of a Snake Plissen movie, driven by guys who probably shouldn’t be allowed in the company of women, it was in Philadelphia. > > There are some damn scary cabbies there. Imagine being sixteen years old, having barely enough money to cover your fare home, and one of those cabbies asks if you “like to party.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/51 "2014-09-15T17:23:20Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > I don’t know what the Workman’s Comp laws are in places that use “petrol,” but here in Georgia an assault on a female employee by a _co-worker, robber or customer_, including rape, would be a WC claim So what? WC benefits are pretty poor compensation for being shot or raped. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/52 "2014-09-15T17:37:23Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Imagine being sixteen years old, having barely enough money to cover your fare home, and one of those cabbies asks if you “like to party.” Perhaps the problem is far too much imagining. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/53 "2014-09-15T17:52:55Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > Perhaps the problem is far too much imagining. I was suggesting the previous poster consider the scenario. I, on the other hand do not need to imagine, I have already had the experience of being sexually propositioned by a cabbie while a teenager. It was an event that caused me to carry a concealed handgun legal or not. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/54 "2014-09-15T17:54:36Z")
If you enjoyed “being sexually propositioned by a cabbie while a teenager”, you’re going to _love_ “prison sentence for illegal firearm”! ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/55 "2014-09-15T17:59:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > So what? WC benefits are pretty poor compensation for being shot or raped. The alternative is for the medical costs to come out of your own insurance, adding [del]insult[/del] injury to injury. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/56 "2014-09-15T18:01:48Z")
What does that have to do with the thread topic? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Original\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b38774/32.png) [@The\_Original\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Original_Bob)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/57 "2014-09-15T18:30:03Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I was suggesting the previous poster consider the scenario. I, on the other hand do not need to imagine, I have already had the experience of being sexually propositioned by a cabbie while a teenager. It was an event that caused me to carry a concealed handgun legal or not. So you don’t like to party? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/58 "2014-09-15T19:53:27Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What does that have to do with the thread topic? My original point was that women service workers (cashiers, cabbies) are at greater risk from assailants posing as customers than are female customers from male service workers (NOT to say that risk is nonexistant\*) **bengangmo** concurred that he did not put female cashiers on the night shift for this reason (Point of fact: while women are a small fraction of workplace injuries in the US, they are the majority of workplace violence victims. That’s more important than men who may have to wait for the livery services make drivers being victims of economic misandry: is what my part in the debate is) Workplace violence is 100% covered by the employers WC insurance, required for any business with more than 3 employees. No, WC insurance won’t “un-rape” you. But you didn’t think that when sympathetic victims like raped women or abused kids show up at the ER, they waive their fee? \*this poster’s SO had been frottage-assaulted by a Tehran bellboy in 1977. He couldn’t be held to account because he was SAVAK’s eyes for the building. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/59 "2014-09-15T19:59:22Z")
I didn’t think about it at all, and I doubt anyone else did. Paying medical bills is like the 14th thing people generally worry about after they are the victim of a rape or battery. Beyond that, workers’ compensation coverage is (1) not required in every state, (2) not required under the same circumstances in every state, and (3) does not cover all or even most workplace assaults in every jurisdiction. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/60 "2014-09-15T20:01:45Z")
> [@The\_Original\_Bob](#): > > So you don’t like to party? Comments like that perfectly illustrate why many women want women only services and service providers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298.md?page=4)