# Female-Only Services

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 12, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298 "2014-09-12T16:06:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 1\
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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-only-services/698298/161 "2014-09-23T20:19:12Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> There can’t be cross purposes when only one of us has a purpose.

That’s almost cute.

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> I’ve been making a pretty straightforward point over and over again. […]
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> Meanwhile I’ve demonstrated that the actual changes in society were explicitly premised on: the effects of discrimination. Which is my point.

Yes, it’s true you’ve been saying that over and over again, and by all indications will continue doing so. I didn’t comment on this point and probably won’t. But along with all these repititions you also chose to make another point, in accusing those who oppose all discrimination of conveniently adopting a self-serving position, and I chose to comment on this particular point.

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> Your opinion is that the express basis for opposition to discrimination, as articulated by civil rights leaders at the time, is irrelevant because the talking points – opposition qua opposition – were what motivated people. OK, that’s your opinion.

I think it’s relevant to some things and irrelevant to others. If you’re going to comment on whether people are conveniently adopting self-serving attitudes, then the actual attitudes people had at the time - as opposed to nuanced positions in books and interviews - are what’s relevant.

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