# Female Sex Tourism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 9, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575 "2013-01-09T02:39:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/61 "2013-01-10T15:52:02Z")

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> [@gracer](#):
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> I highly doubt that. That’s one of the reasons that they go abroad. Did you read the way **even sven** described it?
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> The women who go on these trips probably barely admit that as a reason to themselves.

The key phrase was “plausible deniability.” In the last few generations we’ve made progress in reconciling our sexuality with our non-sexual personae, but we ain’t all the way there yet.

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/62 "2013-01-10T16:25:17Z")

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FWIW, I’m against it. While I’m heartened to see women begin to ask for good sex, I think it’s generally distorts the local economy and distracts young people when they should be building sustainable job skills. Easy money generally isn’t a good thing when you are trying to develop an economy.

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**Author:** ![TheCrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@TheCrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCrow)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/63 "2013-01-10T19:03:31Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> FWIW, I’m against it. While I’m heartened to see women begin to ask for good sex, I think it’s generally distorts the local economy and distracts young people when they should be building sustainable job skills. Easy money generally isn’t a good thing when you are trying to develop an economy.

I always thought it would be easier for women to get a good sex.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/64 "2013-01-10T19:08:21Z")

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It might be easier for women to get a sex, but that doesn’t mean it’s easier for them to get a good sex. A good sex measured by their criteria, not what you think their criteria should be.

And for most women, a good sex requires lots of conditions that lots of men are not interested in providing.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/65 "2013-01-10T19:15:22Z")

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“Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute.”

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/66 "2013-01-10T20:18:42Z")

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> [@TheCrow](#):
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> I always thought it would be easier for women to get a good sex.

Nope. Men who go around looking for easy sex are generally not particularly focused on pleasing their partners- especially if those partners are not particularly attractive. Easy sex is often selfish, sloppy, quick, boring sex. It may scratch an itch for both parties, but its not the same as an attentive, partner-focused lover.

Nor is it easy for unattractive women to get attractive sex partners. Sure, most reasonable looking 23 year olds could probably find a decent looking guy, but women’s sex drivers don’t disappear when they start getting old. And a 58 year old women are no more interested in wrinkled, balding, tubby men than 58 year old men are interested in wrinkled, balding, tubby women.

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/67 "2013-01-11T01:22:55Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> FWIW, I’m against it. While I’m heartened to see women begin to ask for good sex, I think it’s generally distorts the local economy and distracts young people when they should be building sustainable job skills. Easy money generally isn’t a good thing when you are trying to develop an economy.

I was kind of wondering some more about it, thinking in what ways it might be bad. This was something I was wondering about. But then, to some extent, doesn’t that go for certain parts of the tourist industry anyway? Easy money, not building sustainable job skills? The other options for these young guys are basically cleaning for a hotel, or taking tourists on ridiculous “tours”. Maybe there are other options, but that’s what almost everybody seemed to do.

These guys I met were certainly nothing like the image we have of sad, female prostitutes, oppressed, working for a pimp or nasty brothel, never going to get out etc. It was… more of a thing on the side, they were saving, sometimes training as an apprentice, often starting up a little business. It didn’t seem to me like that hopeless, stifling situation that seems typical of prostitution.

I dunno… ☹

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/68 "2013-01-22T04:21:12Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Found it: [Bangkok’s lady-toy bars revealed](http://pattayatoday.net/news/thailand-news/bangkoks-lady-toy-bars-revealed/)
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> I had to link to the _Pattaya Today_ paper, because the _Bangkok Post_ won’t link to stories that far back unless you pay. But it’s the exact same story reprinted.

Update. There was a new story in the _Bangkok Post_ on December 30 called “Turnabout Is Foreplay.” Despite being a mainstream newspaper, the story and photos can be considered NSFW, so the link is in the spoiler box:

[http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/328520/turnabout-is-foreplay-ladies-take-lead-in-shifting-adult-market](http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/328520/turnabout-is-foreplay-ladies-take-lead-in-shifting-adult-market)

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/69 "2013-01-22T12:17:00Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Update. There was a new story in the _Bangkok Post_ on December 30 called “Turnabout Is Foreplay.” Despite being a mainstream newspaper, the story and photos can be considered NSFW, so the link is in the spoiler box:

Gheh, thanks! Reading that (though I didn’t read it all, it’s looong) does make me worry about exploitation etc though. I hope it finds a good balance.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/70 "2013-01-22T12:23:56Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Update. There was a new story in the _Bangkok Post_ on December 30 called “Turnabout Is Foreplay.” Despite being a mainstream newspaper, the story and photos can be considered NSFW, so the link is in the spoiler box:
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> [http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/328520/turnabout-is-foreplay-ladies-take-lead-in-shifting-adult-market](http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/328520/turnabout-is-foreplay-ladies-take-lead-in-shifting-adult-market)

Thank you, Khun Sam! Journalism at its finest.😃

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**Author:** ![Saraya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Saraya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saraya)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/71 "2013-01-22T12:45:49Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> I dunno if it’s misogynistic, but it’s pretty retarded. How could one not be aware of female sex tourism?
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> Women like to have sex with hot young men. I don’t see any reason why that is surprising. OP, the fact that you’re paying for sex hardly means that the women that are paying for sex with these hot african dudes are suddenly gonna change tehir minds and jump your (assumed) flabby inexperienced bones.

African dudes? Aren’t African savages generally mal-nutritioned and/or rebels with guns?  
Or did you mean muscular and lean white South African footballers?

It’s most likely due to the shock that sexual favors for money is a wide spread industry, as opposed to just a thing that you find on dark corners in bad neighborhoods.  
Your brain conjures up images of airlines advertising vacation packages with recreational benefits of which include sexual favors.  
To answer the question, yes it’s wrong - if not for the morality, for the fact it enables young (and older ) women to basically spread their legs to get through life.  
People always looking for a short cut …

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/72 "2013-01-22T13:06:11Z")

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> [@Saraya](#):
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> To answer the question, yes it’s wrong - if not for the morality, for the fact it enables young (and older ) women to basically spread their legs to get through life.  
> People always looking for a short cut …

Whuh? 😕

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-sex-tourism/646575/73 "2013-01-22T13:41:50Z")

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> [@gracer](#):
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> Gheh, thanks! Reading that (though I didn’t read it all, it’s looong) does make me worry about exploitation etc though. I hope it finds a good balance.

> [@kayaker](#):
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> Thank you, Khun Sam! Journalism at its finest.😃

I especially liked the Thai lady who bought a dildo in Hong Kong, and the airport security official at the airport in Hong Kong who discovered it in her carry-on asking: "‘Is this going to be a security risk?’’ 😃

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