# Female Star Trek Uniforms **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 29, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964 "2007-01-29T14:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/41 "2007-01-30T06:56:56Z")
[QUOTE=N9IWP] I think Troi looked better in uniform also. And the cleavage had a LOT to do with structual engineering of her outfits, Ms. Sirtis isn’t that well endowed. Brian [/QUOTE] I believe that Roddenberry’s original concept of Troi included two pairs of boobs. I think a four boobed woman was in one of his post Apocalypse movies that never made it as a series. And now for something completely different … ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/42 "2007-01-30T07:01:00Z")
Eh…gimmie [Yeoman](http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/J.M._Colt) [Colt](http://www.startrek.com/startrek/galleryview?id=2102138&count=9&ads=1&clicks=4&episodeid=68662) any day. …Please. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/43 "2007-01-30T07:09:22Z")
[QUOTE=Voyager] Another example. In the show - I think called Paradise Syndrome, it’s on my DVR now, Kirk gets amnesia in an Indian culture and stays there for some months. The hot alien chick is pregnant by the end of the show. [/QUOTE] Well, technically she’s _dead_ by the end of show. She’s pregnant earlier on. That particular episode, incidentally, contains the longest passage of time for any in the original series, not counting time-travel shows. Kirk also boffs the extraordinarily hot Drusilla in “Bread and Circuses”. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/44 "2007-01-30T13:05:29Z")
> [@](#): > > I believe that Roddenberry’s original concept of Troi included two pairs of boobs. I think a four boobed woman was in one of his post Apocalypse movies that never made it as a series. > > And now for something completely different … No, but a two-_naveled_ woman was. And it was Mariette Hartley, in fact. Supposedly, Roddenbery wanted to poke fun at the network censors’ not letting him (or any other show, like “I Dream of Genie” ) show navels in the 1960s. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/45 "2007-01-30T14:32:56Z")
I couldn’t post this last night, but re: the OP, I think that’s the 23rd century. Men who wear skirts are even further ahead of the curve, because there were some male extras wearing Starfleet uniforms with skirts in the first season on The Next Generation, in the 24th century. Just skirts, not the dress uniforms that also had pants. Did anybody else notice that or was it just me? By the way, remember that early TNG episode where they go to the paradise planet full of beautiful people in little clothes and Wesley is sentenced to death? All the people there were white and blonde. (I think there might have been just one token black man but I’m not sure.) I referred to it as the “Aryan Paradise Planet.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/46 "2007-01-30T14:47:16Z")
[QUOTE=Ranchoth] Eh…gimmie [Yeoman](http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/J.M._Colt) [Colt](http://www.startrek.com/startrek/galleryview?id=2102138&count=9&ads=1&clicks=4&episodeid=68662) any day. …Please. [/QUOTE] Very nice, indeed. But I was always partial to Dr. Helen Noel: [Google Image Result](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sherylfranklin.com/images/trek/women/classic/helen_noel3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sherylfranklin.com/trekwomen_helen_noel.html&h=240&w=320&sz=12&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=pgwJD0sram2NRM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522helen%2Bnoel%2522%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG) ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/47 "2007-01-30T16:01:45Z")
[QUOTE=riker1384] …I think that’s the 23rd century. Men who wear skirts are even further ahead of the curve, because there were some male extras wearing Starfleet uniforms with skirts in the first season on The Next Generation, in the 24th century. Just skirts, not the dress uniforms that also had pants. Did anybody else notice that or was it just me? … [/QUOTE] It’s [well](http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Man_in_a_skant.jpg) [known](http://www.negativevibes.com/sitebuilder/images/Skirt_guy-430x282.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/48 "2007-01-30T20:15:04Z")
[QUOTE=Phase42] I suspect the premise was that, since her duties entailed working as an actual counselor/therapist (as opposed to detecting emotions from the main viewer), often with the large civilian contingent on the ship, people would feel more comfortable sharing their inner thoughts with her if she didn’t obviously look like an officer or “authority figure”. You’ll also notice that when that other captain (the one who filled in while Picard was away on a secret mission) informed Troi that she would have to start wearing a proper Starfleet uniform, her “proper Starfleet uniform” was a much brighter shade of blue than normally seen, almost turquoise against Dr. Crusher’s periwinkle 😉 And frankly, I think Deanna looked better in that “proper” uniform than she ever did in any of the other getups she wore. [/QUOTE] You’re right, I think, in the first paragraph. But I always liked her long blue flowy number. Her appearance in that dress convinced me that Will Riker was a flipping idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/49 "2007-01-31T00:07:00Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Well, technically she’s _dead_ by the end of show. She’s pregnant earlier on. That particular episode, incidentally, contains the longest passage of time for any in the original series, not counting time-travel shows. Kirk also boffs the extraordinarily hot Drusilla in “Bread and Circuses”. [/QUOTE] I was trying not to give a long delayed spoiler. 🙂 It also involves Spock being dumb for about the only time on the series - and it made me wonder why the hell StarFleet didn’t join AAA. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/50 "2007-01-31T01:57:06Z")
[QUOTE=Voyager] I was trying not to give a long delayed spoiler. 🙂 It also involves Spock being dumb for about the only time on the series - and it made me wonder why the hell StarFleet didn’t join AAA. [/QUOTE] Well, he was dumber in “Whom Gods Destroy”. Personally, I think the uniforms from the 2nd-6th film were the best. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/51 "2007-01-31T02:38:12Z")
It’s [rather obvious](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image%3AZapp_Brannigan.png) who sets the standards for spaceship crewmen in skirts. For further research on this riveting topic, see [Vegas in Space.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103192/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxxPVZlZ2FzIGluIFNwYWNlfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxzYz0wfGh0bWw9MQ__;fc=1;ft=20) Even though it actually gave Gilbert Gottfried the willies. Now, that’s saying something. In other news, this is the geekiest thread I have ever participated in. And that is also saying something. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/52 "2007-01-31T02:46:25Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] It’s [rather obvious](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image%3AZapp_Brannigan.png) who sets the standards for spaceship crewmen in skirts. For further research on this riveting topic, see [Vegas in Space.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103192/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxxPVZlZ2FzIGluIFNwYWNlfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxzYz0wfGh0bWw9MQ__;fc=1;ft=20) [/QUOTE] …I am so going to get you for this… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/53 "2007-01-31T03:15:35Z")
[QUOTE=N9IWP] I think Troi looked better in uniform also. And the cleavage had a LOT to do with structual engineering of her outfits, Ms. Sirtis isn’t that well endowed. [/QUOTE] Oh, I don’t know about that. [Warning! **NSFW!**] ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/54 "2007-01-31T04:10:16Z")
I removed your link, **commasense** , because it most definitely wasn’t safe for work viewing. Please remember the “two click” rule: don’t link directly to NSFW content; instead, link to a page that then links to the NSFW stuff. Or, absent that, post the link without making it clickable (so users will have to cut-and-paste into their browsers if they want to see what’s behind the link). ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/55 "2007-01-31T04:21:52Z")
[QUOTE=SkipMagic] I removed your link, **commasense** , because it most definitely wasn’t safe for work viewing. Please remember the “two click” rule: don’t link directly to NSFW content; instead, link to a page that then links to the NSFW stuff. Or, absent that, post the link without making it clickable (so users will have to cut-and-paste into their browsers if they want to see what’s behind the link). [/QUOTE] Couldn’t you have just unclickabled the link, then? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/56 "2007-01-31T04:41:34Z")
Link! Link! LINK!!! ---
**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/57 "2007-01-31T07:27:29Z")
I wholeheartedly concur, we must have a link. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/58 "2007-01-31T14:08:56Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] Link! Link! LINK!!! [/QUOTE] It was just a link to a barebreasted shot of Troi from some obscure movie she was in. You could try Google Image with keywords “Barebreasted” “Troi”. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/59 "2007-01-31T14:18:36Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] It was just a link to a barebreasted shot of Troi from some obscure movie she was in. You could try Google Image with keywords “Barebreasted” “Troi”. Jim [/QUOTE] Somebody mentioned celebritymoviearchive in a thread several months ago. She’s under ‘S’. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/female-star-trek-uniforms/389964/60 "2007-01-31T14:29:07Z")
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