# Feminists and misandry.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 27, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685 "2018-02-27T18:38:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hiero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Hiero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiero)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/1 "2018-02-27T18:38:14Z")

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I’ve been to notice something lately. Some feminists have been saying they are “misandry supporters.” Aren’t they just making the sex gap worse? Some are saying that ALL men should be killed. Do you guys think they are properly representing feminism?

Also, on a side note, someone recently said to me, “Women can’t be sexist.” What do you think about that? I’m really curious to see the public opinion on this, and hopefully, if there are any on this website, a feminist to respond and put their opinion on it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/2 "2018-02-27T18:41:09Z")

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> [@Hiero](#):
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> I’ve been to notice something lately. Some feminists have been saying they are “misandry supporters.”

Which feminists are saying that?

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> Some are saying that ALL men should be killed.

Which feminists are saying that?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/3 "2018-02-27T18:43:44Z")

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Opinion seeking rather than debate. Moving to IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/4 "2018-02-27T18:44:54Z")

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It’s funny how actual misandry started to go down around the year 2000 but the accusations of misandry just started to get more and more common (and this also goes for the accusations of cries of universal racism that also started to decline around 2000.)

It seems that people are fighting the last war on this.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/5 "2018-02-27T18:46:54Z")

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I have not been to notice this.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/6 "2018-02-27T18:49:22Z")

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> [@Hiero](#):
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> I’ve been to notice something lately. Some feminists have been saying they are “misandry supporters.”

If no one else notices this, there is chance it may never have actually happened.  
Things like that happen to the best of us, so don’t sweat it.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/7 "2018-02-27T18:58:16Z")

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> [@Hiero](#):
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> Also, on a side note, someone recently said to me, “Women can’t be sexist.” What do you think about that? I’m really curious to see the public opinion on this, and hopefully, if there are any on this website, a feminist to respond and put their opinion on it.

analogously, “people of color can’t be racist”. To the extent that the oppressed group doesn’t have the power to make things worse for the oppressor group (one definition of “X-ist”), this could be true. But as far as making judgements based on race/gender/etc., sure, anyone can be X-ist.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/8 "2018-02-27T19:06:17Z")

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Odd. Anyone else smell borscht?

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/9 "2018-02-27T19:11:02Z")

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I been smell something.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/10 "2018-02-27T20:09:51Z")

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If you want to disagree with people who think all men should be killed, go ahead and find them and talk to them. Why are you dragging us into it?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/11 "2018-02-27T20:38:13Z")

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No accusations of trolling, Russian or otherwise, outside of the Pit.

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Odd. Anyone else smell borscht?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/12 "2018-02-27T21:06:25Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> If you want to disagree with people who think all men should be killed, go ahead and find them and talk to them. Why are you dragging us into it?

Paranoia loves company.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/13 "2018-02-27T22:03:42Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> If you want to disagree with people who think all men should be killed, go ahead and find them and talk to them. Why are you dragging us into it?

Make sure you do it from a safe distance, though.

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**Author:** ![Hiero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Hiero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiero)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/14 "2018-02-27T22:09:18Z")

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Well, that went to shit. I saw examples this mainly on social media sites.

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**Author:** ![Hiero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Hiero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiero)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/15 "2018-02-27T22:10:47Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> If you want to disagree with people who think all men should be killed, go ahead and find them and talk to them. Why are you dragging us into it?

I was asking for YOUR opinion, and hoping a debate would start.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/16 "2018-02-27T22:18:08Z")

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> [@Hiero](#):
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> Well, that went to shit. I saw examples this mainly on social media sites.

Surely you can show a couple of examples?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/17 "2018-02-27T22:20:40Z")

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> [@Hiero](#):
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> I saw examples this mainly on social media sites.

That explains everything.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/18 "2018-02-27T22:37:47Z")

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> [@Hiero](#):
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> I was asking for YOUR opinion, and hoping a debate would start.

That’s like saying you took a dump on the sidewalk and were hoping a tree would grow.

If you want a debate, put in the work. That means you source your claims (not “some are saying this ridiculous thing”) and then take a stance.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/19 "2018-02-27T23:02:57Z")

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I have feminist friends who will gladly affirm themselves as “misandrists,” and I’ve even seen comments to the effect of “men need to just go,” meaning, there should not be any men any longer.

It’s both an ironic and a defensive manouver in most cases where these claims are made. Practically zero feminists would affirm these ideas as actual, actionable ideology.

“Misandry” usually is used to mean hate for patriarchal or masculine norms, rather than as hatred for each man individually.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feminists-and-misandry/809685/20 "2018-02-28T00:29:58Z")

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> [@Hiero](#):
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> I was asking for YOUR opinion, and hoping a debate would start.

So we’re going to debate by proxy with your imaginary misandrist friends?

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