# Ferguson Grand Jury Decision to be announced at 9pm EST **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 24, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543 "2014-11-24T23:43:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/61 "2014-11-25T04:09:34Z")
Now there’s looting and stores being set on fire away from where the original protests were. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/62 "2014-11-25T04:14:26Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Now there’s looting and stores being set on fire away from where the original protests were. They just don’t understand that whatever sympathy they had quickly evaporates when they shoot at the police, throw Molotov cocktails, and burn cars or buildings. Sort of makes you turn a deaf ear to the message they are trying to spread. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/63 "2014-11-25T04:15:17Z")
If I’m understanding the scanner chatter correctly, the fires are on opposite ends of town, and neither are near the protesting area. Walgreens definitely, fire department is asking for additional trucks, and a beauty salon next to a McDonald’s which sounds under control. And since my last post, two new shots fired reports. None of this sounds like it’s centralized, this stuff is all over town. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/64 "2014-11-25T04:28:44Z")
Fire department requested assistance at the second fire, and a third building fire has just been reported. I’m afraid the fire department isn’t going to keep up. I hope neighboring departments can come in. Sounds like they’re trying to secure another parking lot to use as command post, they got overwhelmed and pulled out of the first one. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/65 "2014-11-25T04:31:37Z")
Clearly, destroying the property and livelihood of innocent bystanders is the best way to demonstrate your deep commitment to justice. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/66 "2014-11-25T04:32:11Z")
Looks like the temperatures are going to dip into the upper 20s tonight in Ferguson. That should keep many of them home. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/67 "2014-11-25T04:36:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Clearly, destroying the property and livelihood of innocent bystanders is the best way to demonstrate your deep commitment to justice. Don’t forget the stolen potato chips, Nothing shows commitment to bettering society like running with an armload of liquor store Ruffles. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/68 "2014-11-25T04:39:04Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Looks like the temperatures are going to dip into the upper 20s tonight in Ferguson. That should keep many of them home. It’s clearly not. Another (4th) fire reported on the scanner, plus heavy gunfire reported being taken by another squad car as I type this. They’re not going to stop until people are dead. Fire department retreating from one of the fires due to gunshots. This is so awful, I don’t have words, and I’m just listening to the radios, not even watching TV. Dispatch is calling for Trooper 987 to respond, he’s not responding. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/69 "2014-11-25T04:40:01Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I honestly have always said rioters should be shot on sight. This was standard protocol in the past. Napoleon cleared the streets with cannons and the British used to have the riot act. People need to learn that the cost for violating law and order is a heavy one. The stability of the state is always supreme over the rights of rioters. +1 well said Peaceful demonstrations are an expression of democracy. Rioting and looting can’t be tolerated. Civil Order has to be maintained. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/70 "2014-11-25T04:45:40Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Interesting article regarding the frequency that police get indicted after shootings: [It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did | FiveThirtyEight](http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/) > > **Can’t speak to its accuracy**. Then why bother posting it? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/71 "2014-11-25T04:49:02Z")
Well, it’s spreading across the country. > **[Protests spread far beyond Ferguson | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2014/11/24/us/national-ferguson-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)** > > Screams of outrage. Crowds marching down streets, blocking intersections. Fists raised in silence. Glad I have my shotgun beside the bed tonight. It’ll stay there for the next few nights. > [@](#): > > In New York, a roving crowd wound its way through the city, surging to more than 1,000 in Times Square before heading toward the Upper West Side, CNN’s Miguel Marquez tweeted. > [@](#): > > Emotions boiled over in Philadelphia, too. > > “Shouts of “f— the police” at word of no indictment,” a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter tweeted. “A man with the mic: ‘we don’t need to get mad.’ Others: ‘yes we do!’” > > In Oakland, California, shop owners posted signs in their windows, “We support Michael Brown,” as marchers took to the streets. > [@](#): > > In Washington, D.C., a large crowd assembled outside the White House, with some protesters lying down on Pennsylvania Avenue. In Los Angeles, a city still scarred by the riots of 1992, the police department was put on “tactical alert.” ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/72 "2014-11-25T05:06:36Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Well, it’s spreading across the country. > [http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/24/us/national-ferguson-protests/index.html?hpt=hp\_t2](http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/24/us/national-ferguson-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t2) > > Glad I have my shotgun beside the bed tonight. It’ll stay there for the next few nights. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/73 "2014-11-25T05:10:28Z")
**Dispatch:** “Car #4682 Retreat. Retreat from the lot of Toys R Us, it is not safe.” ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/74 "2014-11-25T05:14:57Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > :rolleyes: I’m not worried about rioters on my street. However, if the police are downtown trying to control several hundred people. Who’s left to guard the rest of the city from the regular criminals? That’s my concern. The garden variety thug that breaks into houses for a living. If someone hears a prowler in a St Louis neighborhood they better not hold their breath waiting for a patrol car to respond. They’re a bit busy tonight. ---
**Author:** ![callander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@callander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callander)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/75 "2014-11-25T05:25:46Z")
I do think it worth mentioning, the public as of yet does not know what the grand jury based their decision on. (If this was said already I missed it, my bad)) ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/76 "2014-11-25T05:30:54Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m not worried about rioters on my street. However, if the police are downtown trying to control several hundred people. Who’s left to guard the rest of the city from the regular criminals? That’s my concern. The garden variety thug that breaks into houses for a living. If someone hears a prowler in a St Louis neighborhood they better not hold their breath waiting for a patrol car to respond. They’re a bit busy tonight. Don’t you live in Arkansas? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/77 "2014-11-25T05:36:58Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Don’t you live in Arkansas? I’m only 5 hours away from St Louis. We had a few protests right after the shooting. Nothing major. We’re hoping things stay quiet this time too. > **[Little Rock makes Top 10 crime list - Arkansas Times](https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2014/02/28/little-rock-makes-top-10-crime-list)** > > KARK reports that Little Rock has made a Top 10, ranking at No. 5 on a list of the country's most dangerous cities in the category of population under 200,000. Among those 10, Little Rock was one of only three that didn't report a decline in crime... > [@](#): > > Little Rock has made a Top 10, ranking at No. 5 on a list of the country’s in the category of population under 200,000. Among those 10, Little Rock was one of only three that didn’t report a decline in crime according to recently released FBI statistics, KARK reports. The survey says new data released by the FBI Feb. 18 shows seven out of the Top 10 had less crime than the same period during the prior year, but not Little Rock. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/78 "2014-11-25T05:45:17Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I honestly have always said rioters should be shot on sight. This was standard protocol in the past. Napoleon cleared the streets with cannons and the British used to have the riot act. People need to learn that the cost for violating law and order is a heavy one. The stability of the state is always supreme over the rights of rioters. Round them up and have them enslaved I say! That’s what worked back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/79 "2014-11-25T05:46:47Z")
> [@chacoguy](#): > > Round them up and have them enslaved I say! That’s what worked back in the day. It would depend, but typically not. Usually once things got out of hand the powers that be had to do a lot of killing. Some of the women and children might end up enslaved, though. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543/80 "2014-11-25T05:53:13Z")
> [@chacoguy](#): > > Round them up and have them enslaved I say! That’s what worked back in the day. You may think it’s funny, but I heard the violence is spreading as far away as Little Rock and people there are arming themselves to defend their way of life. There’s nothing funny about that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-to-be-announced-at-9pm-est/705543.md?page=5)