# Ferguson, MO

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 12, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354 "2014-08-12T04:51:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2821 "2014-11-19T15:46:13Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> You deserve the society you want, I guess. May I kindly suggest you go search for that society at the bottom of a rock?

Look, when the jury decides, we’ll find out who is right, and who is dead.

Well, we already found out who is dead; the thug is dead. But we’ll find out if we’re living in the kind of society where the cop who shot him is right; I hope we are.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2822 "2014-11-19T16:33:24Z")

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The nice thing about this thread is that it’s revealing the true colors of a lot of people I’d originally thought were pretty inoffensive and reasonable.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2823 "2014-11-19T19:22:46Z")

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Cops are not there to mete out justice. That’s a court’s job. Unless directly preventing physical harm, a cop should never be allowed to use deadly force.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2824 "2014-11-24T19:27:40Z")

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Decision has been made. Announcement forthcoming.

Prepare for the worst.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2825 "2014-11-24T19:38:55Z")

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When is it to be announced?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2826 "2014-11-24T19:47:32Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> When is it to be announced?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

“Later today” is all I see on the news.

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**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2827 "2014-11-24T20:10:45Z")

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4 PM central time.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2828 "2014-11-24T20:24:01Z")

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It’s going to be bedlam.

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**Author:** ![Fallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@Fallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fallen)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2829 "2014-11-24T20:24:42Z")

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Strategically not the worst idea to have been misleading about the two-day warning so that prospective protesters who may’ve left thinking they’ll get a two-day heads-up don’t have time to get back there, and so some folks won’t have time to make up part of the initial crowd if they have a job with standard work hours.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2830 "2014-11-24T20:30:27Z")

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> [@Fallen](#):
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> Strategically not the worst idea to have been misleading about the two-day warning so that prospective protesters who may’ve left thinking they’ll get a two-day heads-up don’t have time to get back there, and so some folks won’t have time to make up part of the initial crowd if they have a job with standard work hours.

Huh? Misleading? The protest organizers asked for 48 hours, which was one of the more ridiculous requests on that list (the idea that a roomful of people could keep that sort of secret for 2 days is laughable). As far as I know, the city never agreed to that provision.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2831 "2014-11-24T20:33:13Z")

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The cynic in me suspects that they made a decision on Friday, and decided to hold off on announcing it (or giving two days’ notice) because they didn’t want to scare off the tourists who were in town over the weekend for Survivor Series (which took place yesterday in St. Louis.) By not giving notice, they didn’t lose the tourist dollars that those people brought in, waiting until 4 PM today, they assure that all the non-locals are out of the area and don’t get caught in the ensuing clusterfuck.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2832 "2014-11-24T20:55:42Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The cynic in me suspects that they made a decision on Friday, and decided to hold off on announcing it (or giving two days’ notice) because they didn’t want to scare off the tourists who were in town over the weekend for Survivor Series (which took place yesterday in St. Louis.) By not giving notice, they didn’t lose the tourist dollars that those people brought in, waiting until 4 PM today, they assure that all the non-locals are out of the area and don’t get caught in the ensuing clusterfuck.

I guarantee you St. Louis County does not give the least bit of fuck about tourists in St. Louis City.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2833 "2014-11-24T21:11:44Z")

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[Here’s the Second Amendment way to protect yourself against the expected riots.](http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/23/us/ferguson-woman-kills-herself/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2834 "2014-11-24T21:22:50Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The cynic in me suspects that they made a decision on Friday, and decided to hold off on announcing it (or giving two days’ notice)

I agree that they had probably already decided (although maybe they hadn’t take a final vote). Schools are out this week so kids will be off the streets. The police are probably pissed that all their Thanksgiving vacation requests are getting cancelled.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2835 "2014-11-24T21:25:54Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> [Here’s the Second Amendment way to protect yourself against the expected riots.](http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/23/us/ferguson-woman-kills-herself/index.html)

Thanks a lot. Now I’m going to hell for laughing at that. . .

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2836 "2014-11-24T21:29:32Z")

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> [@Abe\_Babe](#):
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> Thanks a lot. Now I’m going to hell for laughing at that. . .

I’ll see you there. That was fucking hilarious.

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> He told investigators that as they drove late Friday night, the victim waved a gun, jokingly saying the couple were ready for Ferguson, the sources said.
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> He ducked to get out of the way of the gun and accidentally rear-ended another car. He said the accident caused the gun to go off and she was struck by a bullet in the head, the sources said.

Waving a loaded gun around the driver in a moving car. Darwin Award nominee, for sure.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2837 "2014-11-24T21:39:39Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> [Here’s the Second Amendment way to protect yourself against the expected riots.](http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/23/us/ferguson-woman-kills-herself/index.html)

Apparently police have told St. Louis gun shops to close up due to an impending finding of no crime.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg5tDhlMt5E)

When “the riots” are over they can reopen.

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**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2838 "2014-11-24T21:42:20Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> It’s going to be bedlam.

Just curious - why? Many people expected all hell to break loose after the George Zimmerman verdict, and yet folks basically moved on. I expect that if Darren Wilson isn’t indicted, yes, there will likely be some angry protesters. But not the redux of the Rodney King riots people seem to be bracing for.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2839 "2014-11-24T21:46:36Z")

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> [@Donald\_Rump](#):
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> Just curious - why? Many people expected all hell to break loose after the George Zimmerman verdict, and yet folks basically moved on. I expect that if Darren Wilson isn’t indicted, yes, there will likely be some angry protesters. But not the redux of the Rodney King riots people seem to be bracing for.

Are you completely ignorant of what happened in Ferguson after the Michael Brown shooting?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2840 "2014-11-24T21:48:03Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Apparently police have told St. Louis gun shops to close up due to an impending finding of no crime.
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg5tDhlMt5E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg5tDhlMt5E)
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> When “the riots” are over they can reopen.

That link only has 30 views (and I was one of them). Nothing in it that proves anything like you claim except a few people saying so.

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