# Ferguson, MO **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 12, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354 "2014-08-12T04:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 144
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2861 "2014-11-25T02:38:37Z")
Well, I guess it sucks now to be a racist like **Der Trihs** and **BobLibDem** who don’t give a shit about due process and fact finding and who just want to stick it to the man because of “feewings” are shit out of luck. You both can go fuck a cactus. Assholes. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2862 "2014-11-25T02:43:33Z")
Look Officer Wilson may not have deserved to be prosecuted, but the kid is still dead. Can you gloating assholes please STFU? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2863 "2014-11-25T02:44:20Z")
I’ve been following this all along. The right call was made. ETA: The “kid” did it to himself. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2864 "2014-11-25T02:47:34Z")
Well, I can see the phrase “unindicted murderer” will feature heavily in any Ferguson discussions for the near future. Fuck Missouri. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2865 "2014-11-25T02:49:53Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I’ve been following this all along. > > The right call was made. > > ETA: The “kid” did it to himself. I’m not disagreeing, but even if Brown pulled the trigger himself, the gloating cocksuckers surely can muster a modicum of fucking respect for an all around tragic situation. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2866 "2014-11-25T02:50:19Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Well, I can see the phrase “unindicted murderer” will feature heavily in any Ferguson discussions for the near future. Fuck Missouri. Just wait Missouri is gonna be fucked tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2867 "2014-11-25T02:57:29Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > I’m not disagreeing, but even if Brown pulled the trigger himself, the gloating cocksuckers surely can muster a modicum of fucking respect for an all around tragic situation. A wrongly accused man has been vindicated by the justice system. I thought we were _supposed_ to be happy when that happens. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2868 "2014-11-25T02:58:12Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Just wait Missouri is gonna be fucked tonight. Is this something you celebrate? It sounds to me that you seem to think that Missouri would get what’s coming to it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2869 "2014-11-25T02:59:26Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Well, I guess it sucks now to be a racist like **Der Trihs** and **BobLibDem** who don’t give a shit about due process and fact finding and who just want to stick it to the man because of “feewings” are shit out of luck. Neither due process, evidence, nor guilt ever mattered in this case. A cop killed a black guy, therefore he wasn’t going to be punished. Whether it was murder or self defense or accident never mattered to the outcome; only that it was a black guy and a cop. Randomly terrorizing black people has been _part of the job_ of the American police for as long as they’ve existed. Sometimes openly, sometimes not. When a cop kills a black guy, he’s doing part of what he was _hired_ to do; making sure that the second class citizens know their place and that their lives have no value. Rubbing it in their faces that they aren’t considered human. The courts always go out of their way to make sure black people know they are regarded as subhuman. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2870 "2014-11-25T03:06:25Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Is this something you celebrate? It sounds to me that you seem to think that Missouri would get what’s coming to it. Lol no, I’m talking about the rioting. I just watched a police car get creamed on MSNBC. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2871 "2014-11-25T03:07:07Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Well, I guess it sucks now to be a racist like **Der Trihs** and **BobLibDem** who don’t give a shit about due process and fact finding Uh, that’s because many of those who agree with them DON’T TRUST the system doing the “due process and fact finding” or the process they put into place. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2872 "2014-11-25T03:07:54Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > Look Officer Wilson may not have deserved to be prosecuted, but the kid is still dead. Can you gloating assholes please STFU? If you’re talking about ol’ **Drunky**? No, he can’t. He couldn’t figure out that jokes about dead babies, made to seem like they weren’t jokes, were a jerkish thing to post in a lighthearted thread about babies. At best the guy doesn’t know how to not be inappropriate. Mostly, I think he doesn’t care and enjoys seeing how far he can provoke people. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2873 "2014-11-25T03:10:40Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Lol no, I’m talking about the rioting. I just watched a police car get creamed on MSNBC. Yes, I got that you were talking about the rioting. I asked if you thought that the rioting was a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2874 "2014-11-25T03:10:58Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Lol no, I’m talking about the rioting. I just watched a police car get creamed on MSNBC. I’m watching on CNN. The protestors are less lively than a college football crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2875 "2014-11-25T03:11:59Z")
Just out of curiosity, who would pay to see a Smapti/Der Trihs no holds barred cage match? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2876 "2014-11-25T03:12:37Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Uh, that’s because many of those who agree with them DON’T TRUST the system doing the “due process and fact finding” or the process they put into place. Besides, there wasn’t any “due process and fact finding”. There was no trial, there was a grand jury, which doesn’t need or usually bother with that sort of thing to indict someone. There’s an old saying that grand juries will indict a ham sandwich, their standards are so low - but they won’t indict a cop for killing a black guy here. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2877 "2014-11-25T03:13:59Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Just out of curiosity, who would pay to see a Smapti/Der Trihs no holds barred cage match? With George Zimmerman as the special guest referee? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2878 "2014-11-25T03:15:51Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Besides, there wasn’t any “due process and fact finding”. There was no trial, there was a grand jury, which doesn’t need or usually bother with that sort of thing to indict someone. There’s an old saying that grand juries will indict a ham sandwich, their standards are so low - but they won’t indict a cop for killing a black guy here. Because the evidence and testimony showed that the shooting was justified. Are you suggesting they should have indicted him regardless of the facts? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2879 "2014-11-25T03:17:02Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > With George Zimmerman as the special guest referee? Just don’t let him fire the starting pistol. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2014, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/2880 "2014-11-25T03:18:35Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Because the evidence and testimony showed that the shooting was justified. Are you suggesting they should have indicted him regardless of the facts? I’m saying the facts are irrelevant; he was a cop who killed a black guy, therefore he was never going to be punished. This is a [huge outlier](http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/), not business as usual. > [@](#): > > According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354.md?page=143) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354.md?page=145)