# Ferguson, MO **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 12, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354 "2014-08-12T04:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/601 "2014-08-15T04:24:26Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Same pic of Ferguson mob members trying to light a molotov cocktail. > > [http://www.nationalreview.com/feed/385387/photos-ferguson-peaceful-protests-tear-gas-and-molotov-cocktail-greg-pollowitz](http://www.nationalreview.com/feed/385387/photos-ferguson-peaceful-protests-tear-gas-and-molotov-cocktail-greg-pollowitz) > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/PDPJ/status/499754224134012928/photo/1) …yes I mentioned that earlier. The only pictures I could find was a failed attempt to light a molotov cocktail. These are the same pictures. Debasers assertion wasn’t that a couple of people tried to light a molotov cocktail but failed miserably. It was " It’s when the Molotov cocktails start flying that the tear gas comes out." I haven’t seen any tear gas fired in response to a flying molotov cocktail. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/602 "2014-08-15T04:38:44Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > If your height was proportional to your moral stature, you’d need to stand on a dime to see over a nickel. After reading this thread, I’d say he’d need to stand on a nickel to see over a dime. Damn there are some seriously damaged people on this board. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/603 "2014-08-15T04:40:45Z")
Fascists, racists and authoritarians. Amazing that anyone actually gets away with calling this board overwhelmingly left-wing. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/604 "2014-08-15T04:48:46Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Fascists, racists and authoritarians. Amazing that anyone actually gets away with calling this board overwhelmingly left-wing. I like how quickly it went from “What happened to this unarmed black kid?” to “Will no one think of the danger black people pose to white people everywhere?” ---
**Author:** ![Jay4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@Jay4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay4)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/605 "2014-08-15T04:57:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Fascists, racists and authoritarians. Amazing that anyone actually gets away with calling this board overwhelmingly left-wing. its not truly left wing until someone makes a reply about the children **will someone think of the poor children in Ferguson,MO** ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/606 "2014-08-15T05:30:58Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > This thread is a good indicator of the posters who would herd people onto trains. Y’know, if someone in a uniform asked them to. Authority, and all that. I’ve been thinking that myself. It’s become abundantly clear in this thread that **Smapti** would be a good little Nazi. > [@Smapti](#): > > America stands for arson, looting, and willfully breaking the law and antagonizing government officials? May I introduce you to the Founding Fathers? After all, the Boston Tea Party was willful destruction of property. You disgust me. In the words of Patrick Henry, “May your chains set lightly upon you, and may history forget that ye were our countrymen.” > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Why people think this board is left wing is beyond me. It’s because of all the people like **Smapti** , **Der Trihs** , and the like, who think that government can do no wrong. Admittedly, they have different ways of showing their liberalism, but they share the same principal of government-worship, and have the same goal in mind–the elevation of the government above the people. ---
**Author:** ![Jay4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@Jay4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay4)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/607 "2014-08-15T06:01:52Z")
> **[Times Square SHUT DOWN by thousands marching to support Missouri teen](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2725535/Times-Square-SHUT-DOWN-thousands-marching-Ferguson-protests-spin-country-fifth-night-tensions-gunned-teen.html)** > > The New York rally in support of Michael Brown began Thursday evening in a march up Broadway before culminated in Times Square. > [@](#): > > President Obama speaks with Attorney-General Eric Holder on Thursday on the escalating situation in Ferguson, Missouri. The President has tasked the Department of Justice with conducting an ‘open and transparent’ investigation into teenager Michael Brown’s death i wonder what the next race issue the president will stick his nose into will be,i guess the democrats must not care about there non black supporters.since they are doing a great job at losing them with shit like this ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/608 "2014-08-15T06:09:01Z")
Is it so hard for everyone to agree that: 1. The police may have mishandled the situation, and 1. Looting was/is wrong? ---
**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/609 "2014-08-15T06:09:39Z")
Christ, I hope this thing will actually calm down now. I certainly hope so. It seems that maybee the approach of the Ferguson police was a _bit_ heavy-handed. I honestly hope that this period in time goes down as the time the Ferguson police convinced the rest or our beautiful and diverse country that we are in this together, (By giving an example of what happens when the opposite is true) a community where the police are protecting everyone equally and the citizens can actually trust them, rather than fear them, rather than the time a handful of assholes decided to besmirch the identity of a young black man so they could have free shit, or prove themselves right , that these unruly uppity blacks need to be shown their place. I hope the people of Ferguson can rebuild and that merchants and businesses that were savagely damaged and destroyed can begin to flourish again. This town was definitely on the upswing before this shit. People were building and developing here, things were starting to look up. I have seen several of the people who live in buildings managed by the company I do maintenance for get jobs, and begin to move in a positive direction. I think that if justice is done in this case, the people will be able to deal with it, regardless of the outcome. I’m only writing this because I have been working in this community and am thankful that I have gotten to know some of the people who live there. I’ve never been treated with anything but respect from the people I deal with from Ferguson. They’re just people, trying to get through their day, and hoping that their kids are acting right and they can feed and clothe them. It is really a struggle to survive, and most of the people I’ve come in contact with would have an easier time of it if the people who have power over them considered them kin, at least in spirit, than if they are constantly being obstructed in their strive to live as an American. ---
**Author:** ![Jay4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@Jay4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay4)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/610 "2014-08-15T06:16:26Z")
> [@cutman74](#): > > I honestly hope that this period in time goes down as the time the Ferguson police convinced the rest or our beautiful and diverse country that we are in this together, (By giving an example of what happens when the opposite is true) a community where the police are protecting everyone equally and the citizens can actually trust them people in the places where they are rioting in Ferguson hated police before this.and they will hate police after this so nothing will really improve ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/611 "2014-08-15T06:33:06Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > One more thought on this: You should seriously rethink this attitude. Did you really think, even for a second, that I don’t understand that a journalist could work doing writing or whatever else from a McDonald’s? > > That’s some serious bending over backwards to assume the worst about someone’s posts. It’s almost a perfect example of the sort of silliness you’d see in the SDMB posting “moves” thread. I’ve read your posts here, and yes, IMO you believe and say some astonishing shit. It seems utterly plausible to me that you were making a comment without thinking it all the way thru, as seems to be a habit for you. Frankly, if I were you, I’d rethink how I post and what I say if I found that someone was misunderstanding me as badly as you claim just happened. But, as I said, I’ve read your posts here and don’t find any evidence of self-reflection nor have I ever seen you admit you were wrong about anything more substantial than a typo maybe, so I doubt you’ll do anything other than call me names and huff. Whatever. You suck. ---
**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/612 "2014-08-15T06:44:00Z")
How many people do you know who live there? There is lot less hate of the police and a lot more mistrust. Judging from what’s happened in the past week, rightfully so. Is it impossible to see the difference between tonight and the previous four? The protesters didn’t change, only the police force. Do you not really understand how threatening the police have acted in the past four days? I’m not in any way saying that people other than the police did not act inappropriately. It just seems that after tonight, the only difference is the police presence. I will be deeply saddened if violence occurs tonight after I go to bed. It just sickens me that there is no ability to see shades of gray in any of the people who have decided this is all at the feet of the protesters. Oh yeah, Terr, suck it. your definition of understanding and justification will always be outside the normally accepted use of the English language. There are also a handful of questions I asked that you never answered, even after I answered yours. They are lost way back at the beginning of this thread somewhere, but if you’re interested, you could go back and read and think about them. Just ask yourself the questions, and see if you can even answer yourself honestly. Good night all. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/613 "2014-08-15T07:49:31Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > No, but you are a servile racist fuck, so I’m surprised by your moment of clarity. “Racist”? That’s a new one. When have I ever implied that I want black anarchists to be treated any differently than white anarchists? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/614 "2014-08-15T07:50:58Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Ah, so that’s how you see the cause/effect here? The police were right and acting right all along, so when the ONLY overt change is in police tactics, it must be because SOMETHING mysterious must have happened to the protestors? > > I don’t think I agree. Clearly the police tactics were successful in pacifying the violent element. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/615 "2014-08-15T07:57:53Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > I’ve been thinking that myself. It’s become abundantly clear in this thread that **Smapti** would be a good little Nazi. Cute. Were I to somehow find myself living in Nazi Germany, I would _not_ be a “good little Nazi” nor would I be “loading people onto trains”, because that was not the role of civilians. I would be doing my job, keeping quiet, and staying out of anyone’s way. > [@](#): > > May I introduce you to the Founding Fathers? After all, the Boston Tea Party was willful destruction of property. The difference between terrorism and “Founding Father” is merely a matter of who won. > [@](#): > > You disgust me. In the words of Patrick Henry, “May your chains set lightly upon you, and may history forget that ye were our countrymen.” Did he say that before or after he received six slaves as a wedding present, bought 70 more, and encouraged revolution by telling people the British would arm the blacks to kill them all? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/616 "2014-08-15T08:01:25Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Amazing what competent police can do when they’re not playing Army. So the lesson that we’ve learned here is that if you just start fires and throw rocks at police for long enough, the government will give you everything you want, stop arresting you for behaving unlawfully, forgive all the people who committed crimes during that riot, and punish and demonize the police for doing their job, because the American public thinks that pictures of law enforcement being “militarized” are scary and they don’t have the stomach for it. And so all will be well until the next time the police do something that someone doesn’t like and they decide to start slitting throats again. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/617 "2014-08-15T08:23:37Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So the lesson that we’ve learned here is that if you just start fires and throw rocks at police for long enough, the government will give you everything you want Just so we’re clear, what is this “everything they want” you think the protestors got? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/618 "2014-08-15T08:34:53Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Just so we’re clear, what is this “everything they want” you think the protestors got? To burn down houses and loot and steal with impunity, and now they’re about to be given the name of the officer involved in the shooting so they can kill him or drive him and his family out of town. ---
**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/619 "2014-08-15T08:39:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Cute. Were I to somehow find myself living in Nazi Germany, I would _not_ be a “good little Nazi” … I would be doing my job, keeping quiet, and staying out of anyone’s way. Sounds like being a good little nazi to me. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354/620 "2014-08-15T08:44:17Z")
> [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](#): > > Sounds like being a good little nazi to me. So was every law-abiding citizen of Germany between 1933 and 1945 a “good little Nazi”, then? Including the ones who did not serve in the military, were not members of the Nazi party or government officials, and just held ordinary jobs that were in no way directly involved with the war? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ferguson-mo/695354.md?page=32)