# Feuding Rock Bands

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 5, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625 "2011-08-05T19:13:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/41 "2011-08-08T04:08:20Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Had not read that before, (in fact I don’t think I’ve ever read a Rundgren interview before.) Both parties come off greasy; Lennon seems torn between being Mr. Acidic and Mr. LoveIsAllYouNeed.

Todd can be a prick - Andy Partridge in one interview described him as the only American who really knows sarcasm. But in this case, it was seeing his idol as a drunken buffoon at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go harassing waitresses with a sanitary napkin stuck to his head. It was roughly like the first time you see your parents falling-down drunk.

Todd’s career has long been intertwined with the Beatles -[finishing Badfinger’s _Straight Up_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_Up_%28album%29) when Harrison bowed out as producer, writing the music for[Joe Orton’s _Up Against It_](http://www.lortel.org/LLA_archive/index.cfm?search_by=show&id=1393) after the Beatles passed on it, touring with Ringo’s All-Starr Band and several tours playing Beatles music.

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**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/42 "2011-08-08T08:43:56Z")

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Nirvana v Guns n Roses?

Didn’t Axl Rose insult Courtney backstage (maybe even in front of Kurt)?

I’m also thinking of the Live! Tonight! Sold out! video where they’re talking about certain bands taking themselves too seriously -

KURT: “They’re all like ‘No video! No video!’ I just don’t think they realise…that… [can’t find the words]”  
DAVE [interrupting]: “I just don’t think they realise how much they suck.”

Love it.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/43 "2011-08-08T08:49:10Z")

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If “You’re So Vain” is about Mick Jagger, then “You’re So Vain” by Carly Simon…

Eminem really doesn’t like Moby. He slags him in song, and mocks him in a video.

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/44 "2011-08-08T09:54:16Z")

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> [@JessMagic](#):
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> Nirvana v Guns n Roses?
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> Didn’t Axl Rose insult Courtney backstage (maybe even in front of Kurt)?
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> I’m also thinking of the Live! Tonight! Sold out! video where they’re talking about certain bands taking themselves too seriously -
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> KURT: “They’re all like ‘No video! No video!’ I just don’t think they realise…that… [can’t find the words]”  
> DAVE [interrupting]: “I just don’t think they realise how much they suck.”
> 
> Love it.

Yeah, they hated each other.

Initially Axl loved Nirvana. But Kurt basically told him to go pound sand when Axl asked them to play at his 30th private birthday party, then again when they asked Nirvana to go on tour with Guns and Metallica.

I’m glad he did Axl is still a dick.

Any band that thinks it’s cool to keep your audience waiting for a couple of hours aren’t as good as they think they are. Especially when the original members are long gone. Slash, Iggy, Duff…

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/45 "2011-08-08T10:58:08Z")

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The Foo Fighters’ “Stacked Actors” is about Courtney Love.

When I saw the thread title, I thought it referred to feuds that involved challenges to meet and fight, like Van Halen had going on. I thought the most cogent and funniest comment was when David Lee Roth dismissed the whole thing by pointing out that in all those feuds among rock bands, no one ever seems to get hurt.

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**Author:** ![cgg419](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cgg419/32/2847_2.png) [@cgg419](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cgg419)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/46 "2011-08-08T11:32:45Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> The Foo Fighters’ “Stacked Actors” is about Courtney Love.

I’ve always heard it was about the hollywood scene in general, but then again, most bands/songwriters aren’t forthcoming about specifics.

On the same unproven level though, [Too Cool Queenie](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQu3iiQdbVE) by STP is supposedly about Kurt and Courtney

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/47 "2011-08-08T12:35:07Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> The Foo Fighters’ “Stacked Actors” is about Courtney Love.

And one of the Foo Fighters most kick ass songs, too!

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**Author:** ![chowching](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@chowching](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowching)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/48 "2011-08-08T13:24:18Z")

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Well the bands I know that have some kind of feud is Brand New and Taking Back Sunday. Here’s the best [link](http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_the_feud_between_Taking_Back_Sunday_Brand_New_and_Straylight_Run_start) I can find about their feud.  
Both are good bands in my opinion. But i like Brand New better.

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/49 "2011-08-08T14:22:53Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> David Gilmour took shots at Roger Waters (both from Pink Floyd) with _You Know I’m Right_ from one of his solo albums.

The album was _About Face_ but I think the song dissing Waters was _Cruise_. I loved his work with Floyd, but Roger Waters **is** an insufferable selfish dick.

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**Author:** ![markm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@markm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markm)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/50 "2011-08-08T18:48:25Z")

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Not so much band-on-band, but Primus’ “Year of the Parrot” is kind of a knock on the generic college rock stuff that was all over the place at the time, called out specifically Kate Bush and Van Morrison as opening the floodgates for the stuff (“teaching the parrots to sing”).

Oh, and Clutch’s “Careful with that Mic” is a dig at Eminem’s style, if not Eminem himself.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/51 "2011-08-09T01:31:11Z")

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Well, speaking of Eminem…  
“Chris Kirkpatrick you can get your ass kicked  
worse than them little Limp Bizkit bastards, and Moby  
you can get stomped by Obie, you 36 year old bald headed fag blow me  
You don’t know me, you’re too old let go its over, nobody listens to techno”

Plus he a had a minor feud with Everlast.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/52 "2011-08-09T07:09:46Z")

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> [@markm](#):
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> Not so much band-on-band, but Primus’ “Year of the Parrot” is kind of a knock on the generic college rock stuff that was all over the place at the time, called out specifically Kate Bush and Van Morrison as opening the floodgates for the stuff (“teaching the parrots to sing”).

Not at all clear what Primus’ position on Kate Bush and Van Morrison is, exactly. Is teaching a parrot to sing a bad thing?

Personally. Primus reminds me of a quote attributed to Samuel Johnson about an artist: “His work is good and original. But what is good about it isn’t original and what is original isn’t any good.”

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**Author:** ![markm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@markm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markm)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/53 "2011-08-09T14:34:51Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Not at all clear what Primus’ position on Kate Bush and Van Morrison is, exactly. Is teaching a parrot to sing a bad thing?
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> Personally. Primus reminds me of a quote attributed to Samuel Johnson about an artist: “His work is good and original. But what is good about it isn’t original and what is original isn’t any good.”

(First, I THOUGHT they said Sarah McLachlan instead of Kate Bush in the song and I was right! I put the CD in last night and that’s who it is. Also has her in the lyrics sheet in the liner notes. However, when I looked it up yesterday before posting, every site said Kate Bush)

Anyway, and with Sarah McL, it’s more obvious, it’s bad teaching the parrots to sing because it just means they’re mimicking and not doing anything at all original. this was back before McL had found her own voice and was still sounding exactly like Kate Bush and every other female alt singer out there.  
Going back to that era to give a better example, it’s like how everyone said STP was trying to be more Pearl Jam than Pearl Jam was instead of having their own voice.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feuding-rock-bands/591625/54 "2011-08-09T14:49:03Z")

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> [@markm](#):
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> (First, I THOUGHT they said Sarah McLachlan instead of Kate Bush in the song and I was right! I put the CD in last night and that’s who it is. Also has her in the lyrics sheet in the liner notes. However, when I looked it up yesterday before posting, every site said Kate Bush)

It was mentioned on [a Kate Bush discussion board back in 1995](http://gaffa.org/archives/1995-23/msg00068.html), so I’m pretty sure it’s Kate.

> [@](#):
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> Anyway, and with Sarah McL, it’s more obvious, it’s bad teaching the parrots to sing because it just means they’re mimicking and not doing anything at all original. this was back before McL had found her own voice and was still sounding exactly like Kate Bush and every other female alt singer out there.

I thought Sarah sounded most unique on her first album, and has become less so with every album since.

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