# Fictional anarchist/ libertarian utopias?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** comic-strips\
**Created:** [April 3, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-anarchist-libertarian-utopias/982097 "2023-04-03T18:41:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-anarchist-libertarian-utopias/982097/1 "2023-04-03T18:41:10Z")

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I was recently re-reading the latest arc of the webcomic Quantum Vibe, and had occasion to wonder about the locations a character mentions on page 2220:

> In my 543 years I’ve seen too many once-free societies end themselves by surrendering liberty in pursuit of safety.  
> They wound up with neither. New Hong Kong, El Verdor, Novo Mexico, L-5 City, The Republic of Luna, The United States of America. ALL GONE.

Now the United States of America is obvious, L-5 City is internal to Quantum Vibe itself, as is The Republic of Luna although that’s probably a shout-out to _The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress_. New Hong Kong however is blatantly referencing Phil Foglio’s “Buck Godot” stories. I was therefore wondering if El Verdor and Novo Mexico are from works of fiction I’m unfamiliar with. Unfortunately they’re too generic (and in Spanish to boot) for any search I could do be be useful.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-anarchist-libertarian-utopias/982097/2 "2023-04-03T23:01:43Z")

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“El Verdor” may be Spanish, but “Novo Mexico” definitely isn’t. Maybe that is a clue?

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-anarchist-libertarian-utopias/982097/3 "2023-04-03T23:09:33Z")

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Maybe El Verdor → Benjamín Labatut and Novo Mexico refers to the Manhattan Project?

I got nothing…