Superman’s pretty strong, but not faster than light. Faster than a speeding bullet, sure. But the only person who can run as fast as light is The Flash, and even though he can do it, it isn’t terribly healthy for him.
Now, I honestly think The Flash is almost always underused (especially in the relatively new Justice League show on Cartoon Network). Strength aside, The Flash can run and even think so fast that he can dodge an unforseen explosion. But in the cartoon, he’ll get hit in the head by a thrown brick. Or run too slow to catch a closing door.
Strength can be relative, but speed? If the guy can run as fast as light, he can run as fast as light. He shouldn’t be falling short.
Buffy is the slayer, so why is it she seems to have so much trouble with certain vampires? I know why, to build the dramatic tension or whatever, but it’s frustrating! Goddamnit, SLAY!
Wolverine’s mutant ability is a hyper accelerated healing power, and at the time of the Marvel vs. DC miniseries, he had adamantium bones and claws. He’s a skilled martial artist both armed and unarmed, but posesses no super strength.
Lobo is a psychotic alien who has stood toe to toe with Superman and come out none the worse for wear. Lobo would squash Wolverine like a bug. In the miniseries, we see them disappear behind a bar and Wolverine appears victorious. This was solely because Wolvie was by far the more popular character, but it still makes no sense.
Speaking of getting better results from powers, how about Wolverine’s claws? Sure, claws are great, but they’re pretty useless if you aren’t allowed to cut anybody, which, given Wolverine’s refusal to kill/cut people (especially in the animated series), relegates the guy to “kill robots/open doors” detail.
Everyone has trouble with Holly Quinn. Unlike The Joker, she is totally unpredictable, making her much more dangerous. <Sneak, sneak sneak!>
The Powerpuff Girls are seriously holding back. One of the crossover vignettes on the Cartoon Network establishes them as being more powerful than even the Justice League (by defeating the entire Legion of Doom in seconds). Yet they have a hard time with a monkey? Man, that Mojo Jojo must be the best villain ever.
Dr. Doom being the second-best magician as well as being the second-most intelligent person among humans in the Marvel Comics, and being able to bitch-slap Mephisto in order to redeem her mother’s soul, with little help from Dr. Strange, should not be running away when having a nosebleed, especially from punks like The Fantastic Four.
Phooey. I saw Prof X, Magneto, and pretty much skipped all the words in the middle.
Not that it matters. Magneto had to have started work on the mutant-maker long before Kelly got up on the soapbox. And you know how these super-villains are when they have a new toy…
Now, now, he does have enhanced strength and reflexes (his powers are similar to Sabretooth’s, after all). Definitely not enough to even the gap, but to say he has NO enhanced strength just ain’t so.
Ah, but only in the cartoon! Wolverine has killed lots of folks in the comics (usually not graphically, due to the now-dumped Comics Code), and he definitely has no qualms about it. Of course, most of the time this is when he’s on his own. When he’s with the X-Men, he usually holds back out of respect for Xavier’s aversion to killing.
Hmph. I’d like to see the entire set of comic book superpeople against Neil Gaiman’s Dream. Or possibly Death. Basically, when one of your nightmares gets into the physical world, and inspires hundreds to become serial killers, and you destroy him for not doing a good enough job, you can take on anyone you want.
I think just the fact that wolverine has a natural healing factor gives him super strength. Just think of what your muscles would be capable of if they healed back every bit of damage. (CNS regenerates, muscle tissue heals almost instantly) He would be at least stronger than any mortal human.
That always bugged me in cartoons, too. If the heroes were never allowed to kill anything with a “soul” (Leaving Robots, zombies, etc. free game, at least), and could only “knock out” living creatures and series regulars (Do any of these guys end up with brain damage from being brained so often?), why do they keep being given swords and other bladed weapons to attack people? You’d think someone would have just created a superhero team armed with batons and tazers by now.
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[Captain Picard] We can safely assume (ass-YUME) that any evidence of some limit to Q’s power is merely his latest attempt at a peurile joke. [/Captain Picard]
During WWII, I guess kids were asking, “Why doesn’t Superman fly to Germany, put all the Nazis in a cage, do the same thing with the Japanese forces, and end the war in one day?”
Saturday Night Live did a sketch back around 1977 in which baby Kal-El crashes in Germany and is adopted by a nice Aryan couple, and grows up to be a dedicated Nazi (“Uberman!”) He can spot circumcised Jews with his X-ray vision, and a newspaper headline reads “Uberman Kills Every Person in England!”
Think that’s bad? The DC/Marvel sequel featured Superman getting his ass kicked by freakin’ VENOM. At one point, Venom knocks Supes to his knees, then CHOKES him. Superman. Getting chocked. BY Venom.
Anyway, later in the series, the big bad climax comes when the Justice League goes up against the X Men’s B team: Cyclops, Ice Man, Bishop, Jean Grey, Cannonball, and Jubilee. The X Men almost unanomously beat their chosen DC hero
Cyclops vs. Batman :Despite Batman getting behind Cyclops and slapping a hold on him, Cyke somehow hits Batman in the chest.
Aquaman vs. Cannonball. Yeah, I can see Cannonball using his flying charge against Aquaman, but kicking his ass with punches? Choking him out with his own hook cable?
Superman vs. Marbel Girl: She holds him off, not with telepathic attacks, but by mentally throwing rocks at him.
Green Lantern vs Iceman: It takes GL two pages to think of making a flamethrower.
Bishop vs. Martian Manhunter: Bishop punches MM around for awhile, then tips a bookcase on him. The writer of this series was apparentily never informed that MM could quite concevably knock Thor on his ass.
I can see not liking a particular character, or favoring one company’s team over another, but this kind of ignorance about characters you’re using is simply inexcusable.
Sealemon88, that does sound pretty silly. The DC guys should have beaten the tar out of the X-Men. Ok, they could likely take out Aquaman and maybe Green Lantern, but Batman? No. Hell, Martian Manhunter alone should have been able to take the whole bunch of them out.
As he himself said (I forget who he was fighting, I THINK it was Ultraman, mmmm evil JL) "I can read your mind and change my shape to anticipate any possible atttack you make. This is not a fight; you were defeated the moment you chose to engage me." MM is a real powerhouse, and the second (potentially) scariest guy in the JL. NO WAY Bishop takes him. No way.