# Fictional characters who were probably virgins at an unexpectedly late age. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 26, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053 "2014-04-26T14:19:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/41 "2014-04-26T23:24:51Z")
> [@ryan](#): > > I’m pretty sure there was a romantic relationship with someone, post-rape attempt, that ended badly when she overheard the guy making unflattering comments about her sexual skills and responses to a third party. It never got to the point of sex. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/42 "2014-04-27T01:18:09Z")
Dr. Susan Calvin probably died a virgin. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/43 "2014-04-27T02:20:04Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Eh, I wouldn’t be so sure. The students at UU are known to have an almost institutional lack of respect for University rules, as evidenced by that bit of easily climbed wall everybody knows about (including the faculty) but nobody gets around to fixing for Reasons. They also have a nigh-suicidally inquisitive nature, because wizards. _Sourcery_ indicates that the University is pretty strict about its celibacy policy, though. There must be students who break the rules anyway – we know of one from _Sourcery_ – but the other wizard characters don’t seem to have much in the way of sexual experience. IIRC, one of the early books mentions that Rincewind is a virgin and given what we learn of Ridcully’s backstory in _Lords and Ladies_ it seems likely that he is as well. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/44 "2014-04-27T03:06:33Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I’ve always taken it that MRS. Hughes and MRS. Patmore are widows. > [@rocking\_chair](#): > > sometimes “mrs” is a title for the housekeeper not a marital status. This is it, if you recall there is an episode where an old beau of Mrs. Hughes, who had previously proposed to her, comes back to inquire if they might continue their courtship. In the past she had turned him down to pursue her life of service. He said he wasn’t sure if she was unmarried since she went by Mrs., but she said something to the effect of “housekeepers are always called Mrs., and besides you know I was originally a Hughes.” > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > I do doubt that none of the male servants would have had encounters with easier women–for money or not. Well we know Thomas had sex (with men–the Duke of something or other in S1 and probably others off screen), and the footman Jimmy was portrayed as being a womanizer on his off time. But Carson (the butler), I’m less sure of as we don’t get a clear picture of him as a young man. I just know he’s never been married and the one woman he’s ever known to have loved, he mentions he never so much as held her hand. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/45 "2014-04-27T04:00:28Z")
I’m guessing the Istari from Middle Earth all got them none and had been around since the beginning of the world. However, probably not always in the form of “man”. In which case Cirdan, the only bearded of the Eldar. No mention is made of a Mrs. Cirdan. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/46 "2014-04-27T04:04:22Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > I think there was some speculation in a recent thread about whether Steve Rogers (the recent version) was in his 90s by the time he got some or not. Well, yeah, but if you don’t count the years he spent on ice he was in his 20s, which is nowhere near as weird. ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/47 "2014-04-27T06:07:37Z")
Tarzan? ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/48 "2014-04-27T12:22:43Z")
I’d say Severus Snape. After pining for Lily an excessively long time, some Hogwarts hottie cornered & shagged him when a summer break faculty party got too wild. He is rumored to have almost smiled. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/49 "2014-04-27T12:28:02Z")
Now while we know Dagny Taggart was getting it on with Francisco d’Anconia since she was 16 & probably into her early 20s, and then was probably celibate for a stretch till her mid-30s affair with Hank Rearden, I would consider it quite possible that John Galt never found a woman who embodied his values until she came to his notice & thus, I would say she was his first & only. I’ll place Galt in his late 30s, near Frisco’s age. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/50 "2014-04-27T14:01:48Z")
> [@SirGalahad](#): > > Tarzan? He got married at the end of the second book in the series. Burroughs was always vague about dates, but I would guess he was in his early to mid twenties. By the beginning of the third book, he had sired a child. (John Junior, aka Korak). ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/51 "2014-04-27T14:08:38Z")
Merlin in Mary Stewart’s books. The Crystal Cave, I think, had a scene where the young Merlin came across a randy young lass (whose breath smelt of violets!) and he was stricken by horrendous pain. You can’t live a life of magic and also a regular life. ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/52 "2014-04-27T14:27:12Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > He got married at the end of the second book in the series. Burroughs was always vague about dates, but I would guess he was in his early to mid twenties. By the beginning of the third book, he had sired a child. (John Junior, aka Korak). Right. I’m thinking mid twenties is a surprisingly late age for virginity when you are the baddest dude in the jungle. How about Mr. Spock ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/53 "2014-04-27T17:12:57Z")
> [@SirGalahad](#): > > Right. I’m thinking mid twenties is a surprisingly late age for virginity when you are the baddest dude in the jungle. > How about Mr. Spock It’s pretty clear that the new Mr. Spock is putting to the new Lt. Uhura. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/54 "2014-04-28T00:17:53Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > It’s pretty clear that the new Mr. Spock is putting to the new Lt. Uhura. Also, Genesis Spock got some when he was the accelerated equivalent of 14 from Savaak. I don’t know about Original Spock & his first Amok Time. ---
**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/55 "2014-04-28T02:23:09Z")
How about Jane Hathaway from the “Beverly Hillbillies”? She’s never depicted as having a boyfriend or even dating (she wanted Jethro, though that wasn’t going to happen); for that matter she really didn’t have a life outside of Mr. Drysdale or the Clampetts. And she didn’t strike you as the one night stand type. ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/56 "2014-04-28T04:06:56Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > It’s pretty clear that the new Mr. Spock is putting to the new Lt. Uhura. I meant the real Spock. I’m getting conflicting and confusion information as to TOS canon. The internet claims Spock was over 150 years of age at the time of his death, and that he was betrothed telepathically to T’Pring at age seven. He must have been quite old when he presumably bedded Jill Ireland’s character (Leila) in “This Side of Paradise”. In a couple of places, it’s claimed that Vulcans experience _pon farr_ every seven years. I can’t reconcile that with the plot of “Amok Time”. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/57 "2014-04-28T13:16:33Z")
Aurora from _Sleeping Beauty_. She was around 120 (chronologically) when her prince came by. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/58 "2014-04-30T16:26:46Z")
> [@SirGalahad](#): > > Tarzan? I doubt Tarzan was even twenty when he first met Jane Porter, and I don’t believe even two years went by before they wed, let alone made the two-backed beast. Besides there was the thing with Teeka. ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/59 "2014-04-30T17:21:00Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I doubt Tarzan was even twenty when he first met Jane Porter, and I don’t believe even two years went by before they wed, let alone made the two-backed beast. Besides there was the thing with Teeka. I haven’t read _Tarzan_ in decades, but I don’t remember anything that might imply he was so young when he met Jane. Do you have any cites on that subject? He had established himself as an ape-fighter and a contender for alpha-male of the whole darned jungle … pretty hard to do by your 20th birthday (as a human). ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/60 "2014-04-30T17:28:31Z")
> [@SirGalahad](#): > > I haven’t read _Tarzan_ in decades, but I don’t remember anything that might imply he was so young when he met Jane. Do you have any cites on that subject? He had established himself as an ape-fighter and a contender for alpha-male of the whole darned jungle … pretty hard to do by your 20th birthday (as a human). Tarzan is not an ordinary fellow. Must I remind you about the [meteor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wold_Newton_family)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053.md?page=4)