# Fictional characters who were probably virgins at an unexpectedly late age.

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**Created:** [April 26, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053 "2014-04-26T14:19:47Z")\
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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Eh, I wouldn’t be so sure. The students at UU are known to have an almost institutional lack of respect for University rules, as evidenced by that bit of easily climbed wall everybody knows about (including the faculty) but nobody gets around to fixing for Reasons. They also have a nigh-suicidally inquisitive nature, because wizards.
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> Supposedly they only use that discreet back entrance to go out for pints past curfew, but then if UU has anything to offer its students beyond a sort of uninvolved knowledge osmosis it’s a large selection or ales, port, wines and spirits. And, you know, seeing as you’re already out in the seedy part of town and it wouldn’t be too out of your way, as it were, where’s the harm in finding out what’s all that fuss about seamstresses ? I mean, what’s so exciting about darning socks, that’s what I want to know.

The part where you thread the needle.

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The OP said **"unexpectedly** late age" – no character in an ostensibly celibate calling would count.

QFT.

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> _Sourcery_ indicates that the University is pretty strict about its celibacy policy, though. There must be students who break the rules anyway – we know of one from _Sourcery_ – but the other wizard characters don’t seem to have much in the way of sexual experience. IIRC, one of the early books mentions that Rincewind is a virgin and given what we learn of Ridcully’s backstory in _Lords and Ladies_ it seems likely that he is as well.

In _Sourcery_ it is explained that, while the popular belief is that wizards are celibate because sex drains their magical potency, the real reason for the policy is that, as a wizard is often (apparently not always) the eighth son of an eighth son (8 being the most magical number on Discworld), so a wizard’s eighth son will be an extremely powerful and dangerous Sourcerer; so it’s safer not to let them get started.

Of course, sonkies coming onto the market lately might undermine the foundation of that policy . . . in the eyes of the younger students, at least . . .

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All four Pevensie children. Although they grew to adulthood in their first pass at Narnia, I don’t recall anything about any of them being married or having children; they never again were older than about 18 in the subsequent books. There is a racy passage of an overheard conversation about a foreign prince trying to take liberties with Queen Susan in _The Horse and His Boy_, but it sounds as if it was, well, diverted. So I’d say the odds are that all four, along with possibly Edmund and Jill, went to [del]heaven[/del] Aslanland unscrewed.

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Now while we know Dagny Taggart was getting it on with Francisco d’Anconia since she was 16 & probably into her early 20s, and then was probably celibate for a stretch till her mid-30s affair with Hank Rearden, I would consider it quite possible that John Galt never found a woman who embodied his values until she came to his notice & thus, I would say she was his first & only. I’ll place Galt in his late 30s, near Frisco’s age.

Wouldn’t surprise me, either, if Howard Roark’s “rape by engraved invitation” (as Rand later described it) of Dominique Francon was his first time as well as hers.

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> [@mbh](#):
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> He got married at the end of the second book in the series. Burroughs was always vague about dates, but I would guess he was in his early to mid twenties. By the beginning of the third book, he had sired a child. (John Junior, aka Korak).

No, ermm, youthful dalliances within the clan? I mean, I know young Tarzan is, like, weird-looking and pale and disgustingly bald all over, but some shes dig nerds!

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> [@SirGalahad](#):
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> How about Mr. Spock

Our proper, cool First Officer was drugged with something green,  
And hauled into an alley, where he suffered things obscene.  
He sobered up in Sickbay and he’s none the worse for wear,  
Except he’s somehow taught the bridge computer how to swear.

Chorus: And we’re banned from Argo, everyone.  
Banned from Argo, just for having a little fun.  
We spent a jolly shore leave there for just three days or four,  
But Argo doesn’t want us any more.

The Head Nurse disappeared awhile in the major Dope Bazaar,  
Buying an odd green potion “guaranteed to cause Pon-Farr.”  
She came home with no uniform and an oddly cheerful heart,  
And a painful way of walking – with her feet a yard apart.

– Leslie Fish

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> [@installLSC](#):
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> How about Jane Hathaway from the “Beverly Hillbillies”? She’s never depicted as having a boyfriend or even dating (she wanted Jethro, though that wasn’t going to happen); for that matter she really didn’t have a life outside of Mr. Drysdale or the Clampetts. And she didn’t strike you as the one night stand type.

She might strike one as the dyke-in-denial type.

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> [@TV\_time](#):
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> Hagrid?

His love of large, dangerous creatures appears to be a form of sublimation. Keeping him safe from the **really** dangerous creatures. 😉

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The OP said **"unexpectedly** late age" – no character in an ostensibly celibate calling would count.

Well, that would preclude my suggestion of Ged & his classmates on Earthsea.

–G!

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> [Pottermore](http://www.pottermore.com/), which is Rowling’s official HP site, confirms it. Rowling posted McGonagall’s backstory there, which states that she’s married and even has a daughter.

OK, but I doubt Dolores Umbridge ever got any.

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> All four Pevensie children. Although they grew to adulthood in their first pass at Narnia, I don’t recall anything about any of them being married or having children; they never again were older than about 18 in the subsequent books. There is a racy passage of an overheard conversation about a foreign prince trying to take liberties with Queen Susan in _The Horse and His Boy_, but it sounds as if it was, well, diverted. So I’d say the odds are that all four, along with possibly Edmund and Jill, went to [del]heaven[/del] Aslanland unscrewed.

Except, perhaps, for Susan, who loses touch with the group’s consensus-reality (i.e., grows up, instead of remaining “even as a little child”) and becomes a social butterfly and does not appear in _The Last Battle._ No reason she wouldn’t get married. Especially since a railway accident has killed all her siblings and her uncle, leaving her presumably sole heir to whatever Pevensie fortune there is.

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> [@Grestarian](#):
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> Well, that would preclude my suggestion of Ged & his classmates on Earthsea.
> 
> –G!

Is it ever actually stated that Earthsea wizards have to be celibate? I don’t recall.

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> [Pottermore](http://www.pottermore.com/), which is Rowling’s official HP site, confirms it. Rowling posted McGonagall’s backstory there, which states that she’s married and even has a daughter.

Here’s a question -

In the penultimate book, where Ginny can’t think what to give Harry for his birthday, then she calls him into her room for his present…

And they start snogging

If not interrupted was she going to give him her virginity?

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> Here’s a question -
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> In the penultimate book, where Ginny can’t think what to give Harry for his birthday, then she calls him into her room for his present…
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> And they start snogging
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> If not interrupted was she going to give him her virginity?

[MightyGodKing sure thought so.](http://mightygodking.com/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-so-you-dont-have-to-read-it/) 😛 😃

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Jan Brady.

:rolleyes:  
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:  
OK, just Kidding.

😛  
Does Treebeard count? He was ages and ages old, and the entwives did return at the end, so presumably he fits the “eventually got some” criteria. . .

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Does Treebeard count? He was ages and ages old, and the entwives did return at the end, so presumably he fits the “eventually got some” criteria. . .

The entwives emphatically [did NOT come back](http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Entwives) - although presumably Treebeard got some while they were still around.

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> The entwives emphatically [did NOT come back](http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Entwives) - although presumably Treebeard got some while they were still around.

Granted, in their case they needn’t actually meet, a strong wind would do . . .

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Except, perhaps, for Susan, who loses touch with the group’s consensus-reality (i.e., grows up, instead of remaining “even as a little child”) and becomes a social butterfly and does not appear in _The Last Battle._ No reason she wouldn’t get married. Especially since a railway accident has killed all her siblings and her uncle, leaving her presumably sole heir to whatever Pevensie fortune there is.

What makes you think the Pevensies have anything near a fortune? Edmund and Lucy have to stay with the Scrubbs in _Dawn Treader_ because their father is going to America to work for the summer and there isn’t enough money to take all four children. For that matter, even the professor has lost what money he had by the time of that story; I suspect he’d been talking investment advice from the Earl of Grantham.

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Pelagia in Captain Corelli’s Mandolin.

I was really annoyed when they shagged in the film. In the book, they absolutely do not. As he’s leaving, she says something like “I wish we had lain together… as a man and a woman” and he says “It wouldn’t have been right”.

She never has another relationship in the book, and is pretty old at the end when they are reunited.

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