# Fictional characters who were probably virgins at an unexpectedly late age. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 26, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053 "2014-04-26T14:19:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/101 "2014-05-04T19:52:22Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Wouldn’t surprise me, either, if Howard Roark’s “rape by engraved invitation” (as Rand later described it) of Dominique Francon was his first time as well as hers. I would not be surprised if Dominique’s understanding of sex until Roarke came along was that you used it as a bargaining chip, so she would be choosy but not celibate, and would give it out if she wanted a favor or just got horny. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/102 "2014-05-04T20:22:04Z")
Oh just realized this one: most of the characters in harry potter are virgins. Dumbledore is gay and prefers kids, so of course he never had sex. Hagrid’s not a giant, not a human, so his pool of mates that would “fit” would probably be counted on one hand. Argus Filch keeps pussy near him at all times, but likely he’s a virgin too. The teachers aren’t shown to be married. Snape has been jerking it to a dead woman for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/103 "2014-05-04T22:00:29Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Is it ever actually stated that Earthsea wizards have to be celibate? I don’t recall. If you count _Tehanu_ {shudder}, it’s stated that male wizards magic themselves celibate in return for their power because feminism. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/104 "2014-05-04T23:01:52Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > . . . Dumbledore is gay and prefers kids, . . . . Gay, yes, but not a virgin; he certainly had an affair with Grindelwald and they would have been teens or young adults (snake lady referred to them as boys). Where did you get the pedophile part?!?:eek: Yuck! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/105 "2014-05-04T23:04:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Superhal** : > > Hagrid’s not a giant, not a human, so his pool of mates that would “fit” would probably be counted on one hand. On the other hand, his parents somehow managed to “fit”. If they had a chance, then surely Hagrid does too. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/106 "2014-05-04T23:07:58Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > On the other hand, his parents somehow managed to “fit”. If they had a chance, then surely Hagrid does too. Dad was human, Mom was giant. Hagrid is a boy near-giant. There are logistical issues. Go ask your Mother. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/107 "2014-05-04T23:52:20Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Dad was human, Mom was giant. Hagrid is a boy near-giant. There are logistical issues. > > Go ask your Mother. Hagrid dated the French teacher from their wizardry school. And it seems by the way he acts that, while very uncommon and rare, he has dated before. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/108 "2014-05-05T00:29:05Z")
So Hagrid could get it on with a full-blooded giantess. If it worked for his dad, why wouldn’t it work for him? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/109 "2014-05-05T01:03:05Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > Oh just realized this one: most of the characters in harry potter are virgins. Dumbledore is gay and prefers kids, so of course he never had sex. Hagrid’s not a giant, not a human, so his pool of mates that would “fit” would probably be counted on one hand. Argus Filch keeps pussy near him at all times, but likely he’s a virgin too. The teachers aren’t shown to be married. Snape has been jerking it to a dead woman for decades. What? Since when does Dumbledore prefer kids? WTF? And no, I don’t think he necessarily had an affair with Grindelwald, since I believe Rowling said Grindelwald didn’t feel the same way, but he did use Dumbledore’s feelings to manipulate him. And once again, McGonagall was married, and Remus Lupin married Tonks. Sirius strikes me as being a ladies man. Hagrid later had a relationship with Madame Maxime. Wormtail, however, I’d be willing to bet was a virgin. I doubt he was all that popular with women, and then he spent a good chunk of his life as a rat. (Unless, of course, he was boinking female rats) I do agree about Snape. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/110 "2014-05-05T02:58:03Z")
There was no affair with grindelwald, they hardly met in person. Most of their “romance” was by mail. Dream dumbledore pretty much admitted he had a crush on Harry. I don’t believe hagrid’s parents actually had “sex.” Think about it: a human’s ejaculate would have to travel something like half a football field to get anywhere near a giantess’ eggs. Also, assuming the eggs are giant sized, normal human sperm would have to penetrate the equivalent of a basketball. I’m certain magic played a part in it, or at bare minimum scuba gear. Where is the reference that McGonagall is married? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/111 "2014-05-05T03:36:54Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Jan Brady. Alice. She finally is married to Sam in one of the reunion specials, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she was a virgin on her wedding night. Speaking of domestics, Rose, on _Upstairs, Downstairs_. She finally has a boyfriend who wants to marry her by, like, the third series but he dies. Whether she actually lost her virginity is up in the air, but I like to think she did-- she was around 40. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/112 "2014-05-05T04:16:04Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > I would not be surprised if Dominique’s understanding of sex until Roarke came along was that you used it as a bargaining chip, so she would be choosy but not celibate, and would give it out if she wanted a favor or just got horny. I don’t think she had sexual feelings at all until she saw Roark at the quarry. But yes, she used sex as a bargaining chip, but not at all for her own pleasure. And Roark had his way with a few ladies, but found the encounters rather empty. But Galt? If he was modeled after Frank O’Connor, I don’t think Rand could conceive of O’Connor being a virgin. Supposedly, she knew intimate details of his own sexual history, and would have applied them to Galt, if the story demanded it. But of course we do know that he masturbated. And smoked afterward. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/113 "2014-05-05T04:23:25Z")
Most HP Lovecraft protagonists ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/114 "2014-05-05T04:37:18Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > I don’t think she had sexual feelings at all until she saw Roark at the quarry. But yes, she used sex as a bargaining chip, but not at all for her own pleasure. > > And Roark had his way with a few ladies, but found the encounters rather empty. > > But Galt? If he was modeled after Frank O’Connor, I don’t think Rand could conceive of O’Connor being a virgin. Supposedly, she knew intimate details of his own sexual history, and would have applied them to Galt, if the story demanded it. > > But of course we do know that he masturbated. And smoked afterward. Is any of this from The Source Herself? (Why don’t you start an “ASK A MEMBER OF THE COLLECTIVE?” thread???) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/115 "2014-05-05T05:24:10Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > Dream dumbledore pretty much admitted he had a crush on Harry. Um, where? > [@](#): > > Where is the reference that McGonagall is married? Post 70. Rowling posted her biography on Pottermore. You have to have an account to access the site, so I linked to the [Harry Potter wiki](http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Professor_McGonagall#Between_Wars), which has the info there: > [@](#): > > In the summer of 1982, Elphinstone proposed to Minerva again during a stroll around the Black Lake. Minerva, who had felt freed by the earlier death of Dougal McGregor, finally accepted. Always something of a feminist, she kept her maiden name upon their marriage, to the dismay of pure-blood supremacists who disapproved of her keeping her Muggle father’s name. Together they lived in a small cottage in Hogsmeade where Minerva traveled easily to work every day and often hosted her nieces and nephews for visits. > > In 1985, three years into their marriage, Elphinstone died from a Venomous Tentacula bite. Minerva, who could not bear to remain alone in their cottage, packed her things after her husband’s funeral and returned to her first-floor study in Hogwarts Castle. It is unknown whether Minerva still owns the cottage. (Elphinstone being a man she knew earlier) This was posted at [Pottermore](http://www.pottermore.com/). Rowling said it, I believe it, that settles it. Period. You’re the one who has yet to post any proof that Dumbledore’s a pedo. Oh, and [Neville](http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Neville_Longbottom#Later_life) also becomes a teacher later at Hogwarts and HE marries Hannah Abbott. She manages the Leaky Cauldron and they live in the apartment above it. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/116 "2014-05-05T14:26:59Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Most HP Lovecraft protagonists [Gee, I wonder why?](http://silezukuk.tumblr.com/post/3151672333) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053/117 "2014-05-06T22:10:00Z")
**Superhal** , I went back and read the conversation at King’s Cross – no where did Dumbledore give any indication he had any sort of inappropriate feelings towards Harry. I would say he looked on Harry as more of like the grandson he never had. You’re seriously reaching. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-characters-who-were-probably-virgins-at-an-unexpectedly-late-age/687053.md?page=5)