# Fictional works of fiction. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337 "2005-10-28T17:29:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/41 "2005-10-28T20:30:12Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > It’s called “No TV and No Beer makes Homer Something-Something” Go Crazy? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/42 "2005-10-28T20:33:08Z")
“The Murder of Gonzago” in “Hamlet”. Terence and Philip’s “Asses of Fire” in “South Park”. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/43 "2005-10-28T20:42:43Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Also from The Simpsons we have the Mel Gibson re-make of _Mr Smith Goes to Washington_, _Left Below_, all the various and sundry Troy McClure projects (including the Planet of the Apes stage musical, the Muppet version of Camelot, the afternoon movie set in San Francisco in the 60s and all of the movies that we may remember him from but get nothing but the titles of), Ranier Wolfcastle’s movies (including the McBain series, the apparently unreleased Radioactive Man movie and Undercover Nerd), the Space Mutants film series, the Krusty episode of Batman and probably a ton more that I’m forgetting. _Radioactive Man_ started out as one of the comic books read by Bart Simpson. Later, an actual _Radioactive Man_ comic book series was published, parodying various superhero genre cliches. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/44 "2005-10-28T20:43:15Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Go Crazy? Don’t mind if I do! Waah! Booga booga! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/45 "2005-10-28T20:50:51Z")
_Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooie_ from _Calvin and Hobbes_. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/46 "2005-10-28T21:00:47Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > Of course there’s the book (what was it called? I’ve only read 1984 500 times!) that O’brien gave Winston. _The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism_. But technically speaking, it’s not fiction; it’s a political treatise. And if we’re including movies, there’s Tom DiCello’s _Living In Oblivion_, about a no-budget filmmaker trying to film a scene, and Kaufman and Jonze’s _Adpatation_ (which is a fictionalized telling of the adaptation of…itself). “Maybe that’s what’s wrong with me. Bad chemistry. All my problems and anxiety can be reduced to a chemical imbalance or some kind of misfiring synapses. I need to get help for that. But I’ll still be ugly though. Nothing’s going to change that.” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/47 "2005-10-28T21:15:14Z")
Additional movies in movies: \*African Trader \* in Clint Eastwood’s _White Hunter, Black Heart_. Eastwood plays a John Huston-esque director filming an _African Queen_-esque movie _Mant_ (“Half man, half ant, all terror!”) in _Matinee_ _Habeus Corpus_ in _The Player_ _The Dueling/Dancing Cavalier_ in _Singin’ in the Rain_ _Night Wind_ in _S.O.B._ _Stab_ in _Scream 2_ ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/48 "2005-10-28T22:28:02Z")
Nobody mentioned _The Mousetrap_ yet? ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/49 "2005-10-28T23:57:25Z")
**The Neverending Story** in _The Neverending Story_. The book of poetry written by the Kid in Samuel R. Delany’s **Dhalgren**. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/50 "2005-10-29T00:21:12Z")
The movie _Throw Momma From the Train_ had not one, but two books being written; I believe both of them were called “Throw Momma From the Train.” The book, the movie and the play “Enchanted April” had a writer who penned salacious romantic biographies of historical ladies, such as “Madame Pompadour” (as written in the play; the book titles may be different in the novel and movie). ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/51 "2005-10-29T00:32:02Z")
> [@Steve MB](#): > > _Radioactive Man_ started out as one of the comic books read by Bart Simpson. Later, an actual _Radioactive Man_ comic book series was published, parodying various superhero genre cliches. BTW, the recently-concluded Radioactive Man series by Batton Lash (nine issues total) is excellent reading if you’re at all familiar with the history of comics. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/52 "2005-10-29T00:39:18Z")
There’s the (as far as I can recall) one-episode appearance of the soap opera _Gay as Blazes_ on _Queer as Folk_. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/53 "2005-10-29T00:44:04Z")
> [@BayleDomon](#): > > _Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooie_ from _Calvin and Hobbes_. There is a sequel to _Hamster Huey_ entitled _Captain Coriander Salamander and her Single-hander Beli’ander_, or something like that. Baron Bodissey’s legendary masterwork _Life_ is mentioned in several of Jack Vance’s science fiction novels. It’s not clear whether it’s fiction or non-fiction, but at least one professor promised good grades to any student who read the entire thing. Short excerpts appeared in _The Face_ and _The Book of Dreams_. (And of course Vance’s _The Book of Dreams_ providesonly a few bits and pieces from Howard Allan Treesong’s _The Book of Dreams_.) Norman Spinrad’s _The Iron Dream_ tells us that Adolf Hitler, after dabbling briefly in radical German politics, moved to America and started writing crap science fiction novels. His publications: _The Space Adventures The King of Mars Emperor of the Asteroids The Triumph of the Will The Master Race The One Thousand Year Reign Tomorrow the World_ ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/54 "2005-10-29T00:54:52Z")
> [@Fish](#): > > The movie _Throw Momma From the Train_ had not one, but two books being written; I believe both of them were called “Throw Momma From the Train.”. Billy Crystal’s book was. Danny DeVito’s was called something like “Ned and his momma and Ned’s friend Larry” > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by BayleDomon > Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooie from Calvin and Hobbes. Which reminds me that Peanuts had _The Five Bunny-wunnies And Their Tractor, The Five Bunny-Wunnies Freak Out, etc_ ---
**Author:** ![Omphaloskeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bcef8e/32.png) [@Omphaloskeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omphaloskeptic)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/55 "2005-10-29T01:00:39Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > _The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism_. But technically speaking, it’s not fiction; it’s a political treatise. Hmm, tough call, but I would say it’s a work of fiction masquerading as a political treatise. ---
**Author:** ![Ragiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6de8d8/32.png) [@Ragiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ragiel)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/56 "2005-10-29T01:45:40Z")
> [@Nature's Call](#): > > “Ode to a Small Lump of Green Putty I Found in My Armpit One Midsummer Morning” > > - Grunthos the Flatulent [nitpick]Grunthos was actually an Azgoth of Kria, composers of the second-worst poetry in the universe. I can’t find a Vogon title in the book, maybe in one of the other versions?[/nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/57 "2005-10-29T01:46:34Z")
Considering the discussion of _The Cat Who Walked Through Walls_ in another thread recently, I’m surprised that nobody has mentioned the video drama _Scourge of the Spaceways_, starring Captain John Sterling vs. the Galactic Overlord, written by Hazel Meade Stone and her grandson Buster in _The Rolling Stones_. (That Capt. Sterling himself has a minor role in _Cat_ is significant to the plot. Another couple of Heinleins, _Stranger in a Strange Land_ and the final chapter of _The Number of the Beast_, make reference to an ongoing series of stories written by character Jubal Harshaw based on the Stonebender family. (Spider Robinson fans: yes, that **is** where Jake’s name comes from.) I have never read the source material myself, but I gather that the Sherlock Holmes canon includes reference to a non-existent Watson account of a Holmes exploit entitled “The Case of the Giant Rat of Sumatra.” ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/58 "2005-10-29T01:59:15Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > There’s the (as far as I can recall) one-episode appearance of the soap opera _Gay as Blazes_ on _Queer as Folk_. It wasn’t shown again I don’t think but it was referenced a number of times, including Brian’s noting that it had been canceled. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/59 "2005-10-29T03:11:12Z")
Didn’t Captain Kirk reference some made up book of future poetry along with The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam when romancing Edith Keeler in “The City on the Edge of Forever”. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337/60 "2005-10-29T03:19:08Z")
On \*\*Terry Pratchett’s \*\* Discworld there is the _Necrotelicomnicon_, written by the Klatchian necromancer **Achmed the Mad** (although he preferred to be called **Achmed the I Just Get These Headaches** ). 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fictional-works-of-fiction/328337.md?page=4)