# FIFA Women's World Cup Final: USA v. Japan Commentary Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361 "2011-07-17T18:01:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/61 "2011-07-17T21:25:40Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Solo dropped the ball on this one.

I know that’s a pun, but she stopped one out of 4, that’s a good average. Too bad the first 3 pks from the US were among the worst you’ll ever see.

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**Author:** ![deanc2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/53a042/32.png) [@deanc2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deanc2000)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/62 "2011-07-17T21:25:53Z")

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Alex Morgan is pretty too.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/63 "2011-07-17T21:26:45Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> You mean just like in hockey?

There’s enough scoring in hockey that a playoff game keeps going until there’s a winner, no shootout.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/64 "2011-07-17T21:27:01Z")

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The US had 31 shots…

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/65 "2011-07-17T21:28:05Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> There’s enough scoring in hockey that a playoff game keeps going until there’s a winner, no shootout.

Why do you follow soccer threads?

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/66 "2011-07-17T21:28:25Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> There’s enough scoring in hockey that a playoff game keeps going until there’s a winner, no shootout.

I’m aware, I’m just really sick of how quickly some people go to “See, that’s what’s wrong with soccer, it’s (boring/slow/too hard to score)”. I’ve never heard anybody say, “That’s what’s wrong with basketball, you can just score way too much in one game”.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/67 "2011-07-17T21:29:06Z")

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Hope Solo - The most overrated keeper in football? Maybe.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/68 "2011-07-17T21:29:51Z")

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> [@bmoak](#):
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> Biggest choke in US Women’s sports history?

Why would it be the biggest choke? They played almost the same game in the Brazil game, only in this version we were Brazil. Nobody called Brazil’s game the biggest choke in history.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/69 "2011-07-17T21:30:08Z")

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That was a lot of fun to watch. Congratulations to Japan, they played well and rose to the occasion when they needed to.

Alex Morgan is pretty damn hot, btw. 😉

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**Author:** ![deanc2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/53a042/32.png) [@deanc2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deanc2000)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/70 "2011-07-17T21:30:15Z")

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I think emotionally and psychologically Japan had an advantage in this game. Everyone was so cheering for them, I know subconsciously I was, because of their tragedy.

Maybe this was a factor with the US players “missing” the PK’s?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/71 "2011-07-17T21:30:47Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> Why would it be the biggest choke? They played almost the same game in the Brazil game, only in this version we were Brazil. Nobody called Brazil’s game the biggest choke in history.

Because the US should have scored like 9 goals? Because they went 1 for 4 on pks?

That was a gigantic choke.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/72 "2011-07-17T21:32:04Z")

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> [@deanc2000](#):
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> I think emotionally and psychologically Japan had an advantage in this game. Everyone was so cheering for them, I know subconsciously I was, because of their tragedy.
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> Maybe this was a factor with the US players “missing” the PK’s?

I don’t think the US gave the game away out of sympathy.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/73 "2011-07-17T21:32:33Z")

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Well, at least they lost as a team, You can go down the lineup and point out exactly where each person cost them a goal with a failure to be precise .(except Morgan)

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**Author:** ![deanc2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/53a042/32.png) [@deanc2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deanc2000)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/74 "2011-07-17T21:33:29Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> I don’t think the US gave the game away out of sympathy.

Well, they wouldn’t be obvious about it. I guess only those players will ever know.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/75 "2011-07-17T21:35:33Z")

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> [@deanc2000](#):
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> Well, they wouldn’t be obvious about it. I guess only those players will ever know.

… You’re joking right?

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**Author:** ![happycamper\_5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cab0a1/32.png) [@happycamper\_5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happycamper_5)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/76 "2011-07-17T21:37:45Z")

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> [@deanc2000](#):
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> Well, they wouldn’t be obvious about it. I guess only those players will ever know.

While I am not a member of the Women’s Team, I can guarantee you that they did not lose on purpose. No one that competes at this level would even contemplate such a thing.

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**Author:** ![deanc2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/53a042/32.png) [@deanc2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deanc2000)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/77 "2011-07-17T21:38:40Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> … You’re joking right?

It was just a thought…You must admit though that deep down, doesn’t it feel good that despite being dominated, Japan won.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/78 "2011-07-17T21:45:56Z")

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> [@deanc2000](#):
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> It was just a thought…You must admit though that deep down, doesn’t it feel good that despite being dominated, Japan won.

No.

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**Author:** ![coolbyrne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bc79bd/32.png) [@coolbyrne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coolbyrne)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/79 "2011-07-17T21:52:15Z")

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> [@deanc2000](#):
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> It was just a thought…You must admit though that deep down, doesn’t it feel good that despite being dominated, Japan won.

But this statement doesn’t automatically lead to your original comment. Yes, it does feel good for Japan to win, but I doubt the American women are as happy about it as a neutral supporter. You think Abby Wambach- who has most likely played in her last World Cup- ever contemplated the possibility of letting Japan win? Of course, she ended up scoring on her penalty shot. Perhaps the 3 players before her were thinking, “Hell, we’re young and we’ll be back here again. Japan needs some good news.”

I think what really needs to be mentioned is how great this match was for the women’s game. Few fouls, no diving, fair refereeing decisions, and some real quality in the game. The women’s game is much maligned for its lack of quality in comparison to the men’s game, and is often cited for its poor play and sub-par goal keeping. This match negated all of those criticisms.

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**Author:** ![happycamper\_5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cab0a1/32.png) [@happycamper\_5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happycamper_5)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fifa-womens-world-cup-final-usa-v-japan-commentary-thread/589361/80 "2011-07-17T21:52:38Z")

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> [@deanc2000](#):
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> It was just a thought…You must admit though that deep down, doesn’t it feel good that despite being dominated, Japan won.

Not at all. When Kumagai stepped up to take her penalty, there wasn’t any part of me that wanted her to score. Now that it’s over, I’m happy for them and certainly don’t begrudge them their victory, but I wanted to win from the moment it started.

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