# Fight Club Freeze Frames (not the obvious one) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 5, 2002, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929 "2002-10-05T03:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/21 "2002-10-09T16:09:29Z")
OK… maybe I should have refrained from posting my snotty comment about the irony of telling someone to buy a movie _featuring_ people attempting to destroy capitalism. It obviously wasn’t an argument - just as if I’d used the same argument to defend a terrorist blowing up the studio that produced it. (They’re complaining? They _made a movie_ about people blowing up buildings). One more time… I was being facetious. Fight Club deserves the same protection from copyright laws that a movie based on, say, _Atlas Shrugged_ would. > [@](#): > > _originall posted by unwashed brain_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by gex gex_ > > Dude, chill out and quit with all the rolleyes. What are you, Hollywood’s personal guilt lackey? > > Again…clever . I do believe that we should support artists we like monetarily so that they can continue to produce quality work. Jackholes like RexDart should expect such treatment when they complain about the limitations of the bootlegged movies and music they steal. First, RedDart wasn’t complaining. Second, since you’re so concerned about rules, you might like to remember that we limit personal insults such as ‘jackholes’ to the pit… and, third, I agree. Artists we like should be compensated for the work that they produce. But someone must do the compensating. And if you can’t afford to compensate them, I don’t think anyone is any better off by you not owning the film. For instance, I have a moderate mp3 collection, and a vast CD collection. I couldn’t hope to own the CD of every single song I have on my computer, so I download what I at present cannot afford. If I was a kazillionare and I had entire albums sitting on my hard drive, then yes, I would be an arsehole. And if RexDart is sitting on a couple of million dollars and can’t even be bothered to buy a movie he enjoys, then I can’t support that either. But most of us don’t have the money to experience all the art we would like. So we must compensate. And lastly, I’m still amazed that you value the rights of whatever studio owns Fight Club so much that you would demand to random people on the internet that they go purchase the movie. That is what I found most curious of all. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/22 "2002-10-09T16:10:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\* > > How do you know he didn’t own it, and transfered it to .avi format, then lost the DVD? You don’t! You are just jumping to conclusions. \*\* [Puffs on pipe] It’s elementary my dear Tara Tarkas, Why would anyone prefer to see a film in AVI format if they own the DVD with all of the supliments goodies? If they did in fact own the DVD they would have seen the frames the first time viewing not the 4th as it is much more obvious on the DVD and mentioned on one of teh several commentary tracks. On top of that no collector worth his salt would ever lose that particular DVD. Hence Our friend here is indeed the filthy pirate we are looking for. It’s Elementary [/Puffs on pipe] Of course he did miss the point of the movie entirely so he could very well have misplaced this treasure prefering to watch a dub instead. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/23 "2002-10-09T17:25:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gex gex \* > **But most of us don’t have the money to experience all the art we would like. So we must compensate.** Nonsense! If you’re well off enough to own “a vast CD collection” you’re well off to pay for all your music. Why not sell some of your old CDs to buy new ones? If your music is that important to you, why not eat ramen for every meal? Why not move into a cheaper apartment? The point is that you have the power to choose how you spend your money. You want more CDs than you’re willing to pay for, so you choose to pirate them instead. > [@](#): > > \*\*And lastly, I’m still amazed that you value the rights of whatever studio owns Fight Club so much that you would demand to random people on the internet that they go purchase the movie. That is what I found most curious of all. \*\* No, probably like me he cares about the rights of intellectual property holders in general. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/24 "2002-10-09T17:55:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by unwashed brain \* > \*\*You’re right - I should have held my tongue on the infinitesimal chance that this is the case. Hey, wait! :eek: **THAT** must be why so many people are sharing movies on the internet! They’re not pirates! They’ve all just misplaced their original DVD’s! \*\* Well, you never know. This IS America, where you are innocent until proven guilty. > [@](#): > > \*\* > No, I don’t, because that’s not illegal. \*\* Please explain the difference. I didn’t pay for the Fight Club that was on TV, and i can replay it at will. How is that not stealing? ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/25 "2002-10-09T18:27:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*[Please explain the difference. I didn’t pay for the Fight Club that was on TV, and i can replay it at will. How is that not stealing? \*\* HBO/Showtime/TMC paid the studios for the right to broadcast the movie. You, in turn, _hopefully_ paid the movie channels to view the movie and copy it for personal use (time-shifting, archiving, etc). When and if the movie makes it to broadcast TV, it will be the advertisers ultimately footing the bill for your viewing pleasure. In both scenarios, money gets back to the studios and hopefully the artists who created the film. IN NO WAY are you given the right to redistribute the movie - for free or otherwise. This is all pointed out very clearly in the FBI warning (well, **one** of the FBI warnings on the Fight Club DVD) displayed before every DVD starts. Thus, when a person rips a DVD to their hard drive and then makes it available for others to download over the internet, they’re breaking the law. This is the same as if you made copies of your VHS movies and set up a stand in your font yard giving them all away. Understand? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/26 "2002-10-09T18:54:59Z")
Well, my mom taped the movie and gave it to me (since i don’t have HBO), so by your definition, i am holding an illegal copy. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/27 "2002-10-09T19:05:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Revtim \* > \*\*I don’t have the DVD yet so I haven’t heard any commentary, but assumed that Tyler’s image is actually from the actor Brad Pitt, who exists as an actor in the “universe” of the movie because in one scene you see a marquee in the backround of a theater that’s playing “Seven Years In Tibet”, which stars Brad Pitt. Does the DVD commentary shed any light on this? \*\* I know that this piracy issue in new and interesting and never been discussed before :rolleyes: but does anybody have an answer to my question? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/28 "2002-10-09T19:11:13Z")
There’s also marquees for The People vs. Larry Flynt and The Wings of the Dove, so while it’s an intruiging theory (that he built his alter ego on Brad Pitt), it’s really more of an in-joke, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/29 "2002-10-09T21:07:58Z")
Anyone know if the DVD commentary has anything to say about the marquees? ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/30 "2002-10-09T21:28:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Revtim \* > \*\*Anyone know if the DVD commentary has anything to say about the marquees? \*\* They’re just movies the main actors were in, nothing more than that. Ed Norton - The People vs Larry Flint Brad Pitt - Seven Years to Tibet Helena Bonahm-Carter - Wings of the Dove. ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/31 "2002-10-10T00:20:12Z")
:rolleyes: That looks nice. :rolleyes: That makes eleven rolleyes in this thread. I bet the green guy’s eyes are rolling into his skull. Anyway, filesharing talk is a no-no on the Dope. I an altruistic way, I am confident that Chuck would rather have people steal his book to read it than not read it at all. And yes, Tyler pops in around 6 times. Search for easter eggs in Fight Club online and you’ll find a list. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/32 "2002-10-10T05:50:50Z")
“How to” filesharing threads are a no-no. Debates on the merits of filesharing, OTOH, pop up all the freaking time. ---
**Author:** ![Banger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@Banger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banger)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929/33 "2002-10-10T06:45:05Z")
To all who use :rolleyes:… :rolleyes: DOH! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fight-club-freeze-frames-not-the-obvious-one/130929.md?page=1)