# Fighting Ignorants (D&D setup thread)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 16, 2010, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322 "2010-04-16T08:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/81 "2010-04-19T17:50:10Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Damn, that’s impressive. How long has it been going? I didn’t bother to check the date of the OP in the setup thread.

Two years and one month. We’re in our seventh adventure, and are now over on [Mellophant.com](http://Mellophant.com). **What Exit?** has been doing a great job as our DM. Here’s the current thread, with links to the earlier adventures: [http://www.mellophant.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10169](http://www.mellophant.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10169)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/82 "2010-04-19T19:40:46Z")

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> [@Aghris](#):
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> Can I sign up for a backup spot, too? I’d really love to play a bard (albeit a very clumsy one). I can’t sing if my life depended on it, but I can weave a pretty good story and have been told that I can be pretty funny.  
> If bard is out of the question I’d like to be a rogue.

Sorry, 1st Ed bards are way out of reach with those stats, and your lack of DEX would make you a very indifferent thief (nearest equivalent to rogue). Too bad you’re too weak for a fighter too, your CON score would come in useful there. Looks like yet another weedy wizard, albeit a healthy one. You’ll find the other alternates mulling over their beer in that direction –\>.

Meanwhile:  
**Hoopy Frood** , you have:

Dagger x3 ROF 2 (if thrown), damage 1-4 (1-3 vs large)  
Backpack  
Clothing  
Belt pouches x2  
Hooded lantern  
Oil x3  
Tinder box  
Rations 1 week  
Wineskin, 1 pt watered wine  
3 g.p. pocket money  
Leather-bound spellbook with  
-Sleep  
-Friends  
-Magic Missile  
You can prepare and cast one of the above per day.

As I’ve not heard back from **Dave Hartwick** , he returns to the bench and is replaced by **Wolverine** , with:

Splint mail, small shield, small helmet AC3  
Mace, 2-7 damage (1-6 vs large)  
Hammer ROF 1, 2-5 damage (1-4 if thrown)  
Iron holy symbol  
Backpack  
Wineskin, 1 pint unmixed wine  
Iron rations 1 week  
Tinder box  
20 torches  
10 g.p. pocket money

You have the same spell ability as **AClockworkMelon** , [link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12351702&postcount=38), but because of your high Wisdom you have no chance of spell failure and can cast three spells per day - either three different spells or multiple castings of the same spell, whichever you pick. Also your Wisdom gives you a +1 resistance bonus against charm-type magic. You can _turn undead_ as well.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/83 "2010-04-19T20:00:48Z")

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And we’re [off](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=560241). 🙂

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/84 "2010-04-23T01:52:48Z")

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-bumped to keep track of spells-

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/85 "2010-04-24T18:09:49Z")

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Ishtar successfully learns Magic Missile.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/86 "2010-04-24T22:08:59Z")

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Frodo fails to learn magic missile. You are now unable to learn this until you somehow increase your INT. You can still use magic items or scrolls that cast this spell, though. (Blame [random.org](http://random.org))

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/87 "2010-04-25T04:45:46Z")

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WoOt!

Next time I’ll try to learn Sleep. But for now maybe I’ll stick to see what’s going on.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/88 "2010-04-25T05:20:20Z")

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I think we’re mixing threads, unless this one is for direct DM talk maybe?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/89 "2010-04-25T05:22:35Z")

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I’m pretty sure **Mala** is keeping talk regarding spells here because this is the thread where all our stats are.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/90 "2010-04-25T05:24:38Z")

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Pretty much, I’m just using this thread mostly for me as a player to hash out the nit picky stuff, though i’ll put pertinent info on the main thread (ie: what spell’s i’ve prepared and such).

But out of game commentary will probably go here for me.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/91 "2010-04-25T10:19:40Z")

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Religion and the People of the Mountains: Some worshipped the Norse deities or (as at Sullwasser) a local godling of their own preferring. Most however worshipped some aspect of Nature and did not think it proper to give names to gods. Their prayers seemed to go answered anyway. There is lively theological debate in some quarters as to why this is so. Two of the most popular theories are that “When you offer a prayer to the Moon, you offer it to the god of the Moon whether you realize it or not” and that “When you worship the god of the Moon, you show devotion to the greater principle behind the idea of the god, and that is what counts”. Since both these theories, and others besides, are supported by the evidence of miracles, in that clerical spells are granted in either case, the debate is by no means settled.

On the other hand, anyone professing a belief in Thor and then acting in a manner that Thor does not approve of, for example, tends to reap negative repercussions.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/92 "2010-04-26T07:00:26Z")

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I like that. It has a very naturalistic approach. I will adopt said phrasing in the future. My religious stance will be the one about worshiping weather, specifically rain. Rain is very necessary for sustaining life but also a danger with flash floods. I could see worshiping something that gives and takes away. I might play lip service to some of the People that worship Thor, but only in a cursory way. I find it strange that people anthropomorphize something as wild and wonderful as rain.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/93 "2010-04-26T07:24:22Z")

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Honestly, in real life I have a tendency to do that w/ Rain. If it’s raining during the day, especially when the sun is still shining, I tend to think those days are my lucky days and just naturally tend to brighten up.

:shrug: one of those weird quirks i have.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/94 "2010-04-26T11:56:21Z")

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I on my phone this week since I’m in a school. I’ll still be reading along but my posting will be less and filled with spelling errors.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/95 "2010-04-26T15:34:04Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> I like that. It has a very naturalistic approach. I will adopt said phrasing in the future. My religious stance will be the one about worshiping weather, specifically rain. Rain is very necessary for sustaining life but also a danger with flash floods. I could see worshiping something that gives and takes away. I might play lip service to some of the People that worship Thor, but only in a cursory way. I find it strange that people anthropomorphize something as wild and wonderful as rain.

Fair enough. (And I should have mentioned, of course, that Thor is just the guy to put the “percussion” into “repercussions”. 😃 )

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/96 "2010-04-27T20:35:04Z")

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Sorry people, have been out this evening and it is now early to bed for me - hope to feel better tomorrow. ☹

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/97 "2010-04-28T17:25:59Z")

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…still ill…

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/98 "2010-04-28T18:58:38Z")

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Roll a constitution check!

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/99 "2010-04-29T15:35:11Z")

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Get well soon!

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-ignorants-d-d-setup-thread/536322/100 "2010-04-30T20:46:17Z")

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Thanks! Made my CON checks, just need to get my sleep cycle re-synched and I’ll be back in harness. Thank you for waiting. 🙂

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