# Fighting misogyny - but "cunt" and "bitch" are still okay words **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 14, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-misogyny-but-cunt-and-bitch-are-still-okay-words/853769 "2020-05-14T04:16:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 114
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-misogyny-but-cunt-and-bitch-are-still-okay-words/853769/114 "2020-05-21T16:07:20Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > You fail to see the point several posters are trying to make. They are saying that the words “bitch” and “cunt” are descriptors for women simply because they are women, as opposed to any behavior they might have. I fail to see the relevance of that point. Are you implying that gender-specific insults should be off-limits because gender-specific insults are hate speech? That it is the gender-specific quality of a curse word which puts it past a bright line? I don’t agree, but I would be interested in hearing the argument supporting that premise. > [@Irishman](#): > > So, yes or no, if a black man punches your wife, calling him a nigger is not hate speech? It’s a complicated question but I’m going to say no, calling a black man who punches your wife a nigger is not hate speech just because you called a black man a nigger. It could be hate speech if you show hatred towards a class of people, but I am of the opinion that the word “nigger” alone does not do so. Not even when used as an insult or ethnic slur. I’m probably on my own with that opinion, but hey, I read replies with an open mind. ~Max --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-misogyny-but-cunt-and-bitch-are-still-okay-words/853769)._