# Figthing Ignorance With Ignorance?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 24, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437 "2015-11-24T16:03:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/21 "2015-11-24T18:20:43Z")
> [@ebuc76](#):
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> In same thread it is asked for others to address specific comments by me, with rational, logical common sense, that actually invalidates any of my concepts as given.
In other words, qualities not so far displayed by your fine self.
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### Author:  [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/22 "2015-11-24T18:36:19Z")
The dope is the worstest place on the intartubes.
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### Author:  [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/23 "2015-11-24T19:21:23Z")
Was he expecting to find a Ridicule Free Forum on the internet?
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### Author:  [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/24 "2015-11-24T19:31:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#):
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> Three main branches of philosophy: ethics, aesthetics, and **methphysics**.
I think you have something in common with the OP.
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### Author:  [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/25 "2015-11-24T20:24:16Z")
> [@TroutMan](#):
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> I admit to being slightly ignorant about figs, and I would have thought that **Chefguy** was the right person to enlighten us. Now I don’t know where to turn.
We should investigate this with–Top Priority.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/26 "2015-11-24T20:28:21Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> We should investigate this with–Top Priority.
With Top. Men.
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### Author:  [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/27 "2015-11-24T20:34:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I think we need to thank **ebuc76** Johnson for saying what had to be said.
> Not only was it authentic internet gibberish, it expressed an insanity little seen in this day and age.
Somebody’s gotta go back and get a Shit-load of dimes!
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### Author:  [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/28 "2015-11-24T20:36:48Z")
**FX** , is that you?
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### Author:  [@ebuc76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ebuc76)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/29 "2015-11-24T20:40:59Z")
Recieved letter from moderator. Moderator?:smack:
More like the Joker 😛 from Batman scenarios, moderating a clique of ridiculists:p by supporting and encouraging unnecessary and uncalled for, cruel intentions,:mad: at Crooked Tube-of-Group forum.
Fighting common sense and ignorance with more ignorance is…
ebuc
> [@ebuc76](#):
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> Fighting common sense with ignorance is the norm here at The Crooked Tube-of-Glue forum and in well documented in the threads, Cosmic Thinker, Free Ridicule Forum
> The above is a resultant of a sad lack of intellectual integrity here at Crooked Tube-of-Glue forum.
> The above is also a resultant sad lack of moral integrity, also well documented, here at Crooked Glue-Forum.
> It is now becoming more well known that people with cruel intentions shut off activity in a part of their brain and in doing so, they allow themselves to treat fellow humans only as material objects, to not be treated with respect, compassion, empathy etc…
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> In Cosmic Thinker thread the uneccessary ridicule is uncalled for and specifically asked not to be posted and it is not.
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> In same thread it is asked for others to address specific comments by me, with rational, logical common sense, that actually invalidates any of my concepts as given.
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> It is obvious to those seeking truth, that, we have a circus of ridiculing from appears to be glue-sniffing monkeys, who are fighting common sense with ignorance since 1973…
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> r6
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/30 "2015-11-24T20:43:43Z")
> [@ebuc76](#):
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> Recieved letter from moderator. Moderator?:smack:
A mod sent you snail-mail?
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### Author:  [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/31 "2015-11-24T20:44:07Z")
> [@ebuc76](#):
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> More like the Joker 😛 from Batman scenarios, moderating a clique of ridiculists:p by supporting and encouraging unnecessary and uncalled for, cruel intentions,:mad: at Crooked Tube-of-Group forum.
Why so serious?
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### Author:  [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/32 "2015-11-24T20:53:24Z")
> [@Chimera](#):
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> Guess I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
Sometimes the lines just write themselves and sometimes you just have to paste them. 😃
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### Author:  [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/33 "2015-11-24T20:53:25Z")
Why is it that these internet “geniuses” are such whiney little shits when things don’t go their way?
It’s a problem we need to put top men on.
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### Author:  [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/34 "2015-11-24T21:04:26Z")
Is it against board rules to make a thread to see who can come up with the best mock gibberish?
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### Author:  [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/35 "2015-11-24T21:12:29Z")
Sigh… OK, I will try to parse your initial statement. Apologies to everybody for seeing this repeated, but I’m trying to help a new Doper out and don’t wish to see him alienated (yet).
> [@](#):
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> R. Bucky Fuller recommended always starting with the whole, that way, all parts are and none are left out.
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> 1. "U"niverse is my most inclusive( wholostic ) terminology ergo;
> …1a macro-infinite non-occupied space( embraces finite occupied space UniVerse,
> …1b metaphysical-1( mind/intellect/concept ),
> …1c finite, occupied space UniVerse.
He means Buckminster Fuller, who used the term Universe to mean “the aggregate of all humanity’s consciously apprehended and communicated (to self or others) Experiences” according to Wikipedia. Note there is no preceding article and the term is capitalized. So, he doesn’t mean the physical universe, which is infinite. Since humanity is not infinite, neither is Universe.
Not sure why he’s capitalizing the V though.
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> 1. metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concept
> …ex concept of a God outside of finite Universe, holding Universe in its hands…
> …absolutes truths
> …relative truths
I believe he’s saying that the God concept doesn’t apply here. Fuller thought we had to think more in terms of relativity, as Einstein was in the process of discovering. The shortest distance between two points is not a straight line, since we’re neglecting to account for the curvature of Earth. He didn’t think in terms of "up’ and “down” since we live on a globe — he preferred “out” and “in”. Walk outstairs instead of upstairs. Hence, relative truth opposes absolute truth.
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> 1. UniVerse = finite occupied space
> …fermions, bosons and any collective aggregate thereof
> …gravity and dark energy odd-bird-bosons out
He’s saying we have to incorporate more quantum physics into our thinking. Fermions and bosons refer to elementary particles (such as atoms) or composite particles (such as molecules). The difference between the two is bosons have integer spin and fermions have half-integer spin. For some reason, that makes the concepts of gravity and dark matter antiquated.
OK, I gave it a shot. Is that anywhere close to what you intended ebuc?
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/36 "2015-11-24T21:23:26Z")
> [@Gedd](#):
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> Is it against board rules to make a thread to see who can come up with the best mock gibberish?
Indeed it is! Nothing but **real** gibberish will do for **this** Board!
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### Author:  [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/37 "2015-11-24T21:30:46Z")
> [@ebuc76](#):
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> Fighting common sense and ignorance with more ignorance is…
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> ebuc
Truer words were never spoken.
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### Author:  [@ebuc76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ebuc76)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/38 "2015-11-24T21:32:26Z")
> [@](#):
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> KO–OK, I gave it a shot. Is that anywhere close to what you intended ebuc?
It is closer than than average ridiculist.
> [@](#):
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> Knowed Out–So, he doesn’t mean the physical universe, which is infinite. Since humanity is not infinite, neither is Universe.
This is not what I stated ergo certainly not what I meant. This typical of those wholack the intellectual integrity to engage with others in fair playing field.
You need to go back to the beginning and read what I said and address what I stated, not your false projections. Thx.
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> Not sure why he’s capitalizing the V though.
If and when you can actually show some semblance of any validating comments that you actually have a grasp of the statements, previous to that specific word, then I perhaps I can explain and clarify.
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> I believe he’s saying that the God concept doesn’t apply here.
Adddress the specific comment as stated. False projections are irrelevant.
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> He’s saying we have to incorporate more quantum physics into our thinking. Fermions and bosons refer to elementary particles (such as atoms) or composite particles (such as molecules).
Your off on your own set of false projections again.
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> The difference between the two is bosons have integer spin and fermions have half-integer spin. For some reason, that makes the concepts of gravity and dark matter antiquated.
Again off on your own false projections that are irrelevant to my comments as stated.
Typical ridiculist inferiority complex kicking in. Misdirect in any way possible and never address comments specifically as stated.
> [@](#):
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> OK, I gave it a shot. Is that anywhere close to what you intended ebuc?
That was fairly lame shot. Your lucky you didnt shoot yourself in foot or elsewhere.
I dont think you interested in having sincere rational, logical common sense disscussion that address my comments as specifically stated. Not sure what your intentions are other than you know how to access a wiki site about B FUller.
Stick to what ive stated and leave your false projections elsewhere, then you may have a chance of actually expanding your intellectual base and heart.
ebuc
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/39 "2015-11-24T21:39:41Z")
> [@ebuc76](#):
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> It is closer than than average ridiculist.
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> This is not what I stated ergo certainly not what I meant. This typical of those wholack the intellectual integrity to engage with others in fair playing field.
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> You need to go back to the beginning and read what I said and address what I stated, not your false projections. Thx.
> If and when you can actually show some semblance of any validating comments that you actually have a grasp of the statements, previous to that specific word, then I perhaps I can explain and clarify.
> Adddress the specific comment as stated. False projections are irrelevant.
> Your off on your own set of false projections again.
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> Again off on your own false projections that are irrelevant to my comments as stated.
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> Typical ridiculist inferiority complex kicking in. Misdirect in any way possible and never address comments specifically as stated.
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> That was fairly lame shot. Your lucky you didnt shoot yourself in foot or elsewhere.
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> I dont think you interested in having sincere rational, logical common sense disscussion that address my comments as specifically stated. Not sure what your intentions are other than you know how to access a wiki site about B FUller.
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> Stick to what ive stated and leave your false projections elsewhere, then you may have a chance of actually expanding your intellectual base and heart.
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> ebuc
What is the purpose of using different colors in your posts?
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### Author:  [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/figthing-ignorance-with-ignorance/738437/40 "2015-11-24T21:59:14Z")
> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> Why is it that these internet “geniuses” are such whiney little shits when things don’t go their way?
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> It’s a problem we need to put top men on.
Whom would you recommend?
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