# Film Noir Appreciation Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 23, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222 "2010-08-23T23:00:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/1 "2010-08-23T23:00:41Z")

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I admit it - I own lots and lots of movies (two terabytes worth). I tend to categorize them by year with a few exceptions; musicals, submarine movies, documentaries, noir…

Looking at my Noir listing, I realize I have more in that category than any others - more than 150 flicks. I never get tired of watching them, even the bad ones. Sometimes the B-rated ones are more fun to watch.

My favorites? Almost anything with Claire Trevor and Barbara Stanwyck for starters. _Detour_ and _D.O.A._ are ones I can watch over and over. I love _Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid._ These movies helped my lifelong love affair with Burt Lancaster.

I am lucky to live in “the foggy city” where we actually have a Noir festival, but what are your favorites?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/2 "2010-08-24T01:01:47Z")

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_Out of the Past_ is deservedly a classic.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/3 "2010-08-24T01:17:15Z")

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[Kiss Me Deadly](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048261/) deserves a mention, I think.

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/4 "2010-08-24T01:24:10Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> [Kiss Me Deadly](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048261/) deserves a mention, I think.

Thanks for the reminder - I have two versions (one with an alternate ending) and I have been waiting until I have time to watch both back-to-back.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/5 "2010-08-24T02:05:52Z")

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_The Big Clock_ (1948). Remade in 1987 as _No Way Out_, which launched Kevin Costner’s career.

_The Sweet Smell of Success_ (1957). An incredibly great movie. Starring Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis.

_The Last Seduction_ (1994), with Linda Fiorentio as perhaps the ultimate femme fatale.

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**Author:** ![25.1327\_Octopi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ecb155/32.png) [@25.1327\_Octopi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/25.1327_Octopi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/6 "2010-08-24T02:21:07Z")

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One cannot discuss noir without mentioning _Double Indemnity_.

And a bit of a shout out to some French noir masterpieces: _Bob Le Flambeur_, _Riffifi_, and _Le Samourai_.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/7 "2010-08-24T02:36:39Z")

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Oh, yes, French noir. There’s some great stuff. _Le Cercle Rouge_ (1970) comes to mind immediately.

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**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/8 "2010-08-24T12:18:27Z")

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Ah, black and white - my favorite…

[The Devil Thumbs a Ride](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039317/)  
[The Ghost Ship](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035937/)  
[Scarlett Street](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038057/)

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/9 "2010-08-24T13:01:07Z")

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_The Glass Key_, both versions.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/10 "2010-08-24T14:59:48Z")

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Can one imagine what the world would be like today if men wore hats-- not baseball caps? And took them off when they went inside?

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/11 "2010-08-24T17:24:34Z")

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I wear hats – and not baseball caps – and I take them off when I go inside.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/12 "2010-08-24T17:30:02Z")

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> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#):
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> I am lucky to live in “the foggy city” where we actually have a Noir festival,

Indeed–I go every year, though it’s always tough choosing which day to go (I attend enough other fests throughout the year, my better half will not abide being a noir widow).

Lots of great mentions (especially _Smell_ & _Scarlet_), but one personal fave is _Criss Cross_, another lean, tight Lancaster vehicle directed by Robert Siodmak, who was no slouch in that genre.

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**Author:** ![Caprese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9a28c/32.png) [@Caprese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caprese)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/13 "2010-08-24T17:49:41Z")

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I still like noir, but I went through a phase of romance-tinged noir as a teen.  
Some favorites of mine:

[Laura](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037008/)  
A crime thriller about obsession.

[Rebecca](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032976/)  
IMDB description: _When a naive young woman marries a rich widower and settles in his gigantic mansion, she finds the memory of the first wife maintaining a grip on her husband and the servants._

[The Uninvited](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037415/)  
Crumbling home on the Cornish coast. A cat arches its back at the unseen, flowers wither from a “malignant hand.” Good black and white stuff on a rainy night.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/14 "2010-08-24T18:06:23Z")

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“She walked in pointing a pair of .45’s at me…  
…then she pulled out a gun.”  
_Tommy Sledge_

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/15 "2010-08-24T18:20:41Z")

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A noir from Kurosawa, [High and Low](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057565/), is riveting.  
Then there’s Truffaut’s, [Shoot the Piano Player](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054389/), one of my all time favorites.  
Also have to reco [I Wake Up Screaming](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033740/), if for nothing else than for Laird Cregar’s performance.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/16 "2010-08-24T21:57:38Z")

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> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#):
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> These movies helped my lifelong love affair with Burt Lancaster.

[The Killers](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038669/) is my Burt favorite.

I mentioned it before I think, but [The Big Sleep](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038355/) is a good one IMHO.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/17 "2010-08-25T05:35:57Z")

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[Brick](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0393109/)

On my personal top-ten movie list, it shows you can have a riveting, 100% Noir movie with any setting if you do it right.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/18 "2010-08-25T05:40:15Z")

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Apocalypse Now

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/19 "2010-08-25T06:12:09Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Apocalypse Now

Interesting take. There are certainly elements of film noir in it, but not enough to classify it as such, imo.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/film-noir-appreciation-thread/551222/20 "2010-08-25T10:34:13Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> A noir from Kurosawa, [High and Low](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057565/), is riveting…

I cannot agree more, one of my favorites.

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