# Films (sequels mainly) that "do not exist"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 23, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169 "2007-09-23T03:44:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/41 "2007-09-24T03:06:13Z")

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[QUOTE=blinkingblinking]  
Obviously because the second movie was a ‘prequel’  
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Prequels sound like a silly idea and I am glad no one has ever actualy put them into practice, not once and certainly not 3 of them.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/42 "2007-09-24T03:26:48Z")

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[QUOTE=kunilou]  
Why, for example, was there no _Star Trek: The Motion Picture_ ? Instead the series starts with _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn._  
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I’ve wondered that myself. But wasn’t it a great movie, though? And a very sad ending.

I like the immediate sequel, too – you know, the one where they go back in time to save the whales. Except they never explained how Spock came back to life.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/43 "2007-09-24T04:49:41Z")

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> Go watch The Hustler if you don’t believe me. He may have been over the hill and in need of a paycheck, but he was an excellent actor.

_The Hustler_ was a great movie and Gleason did give a fine preformance. Yet another movie we’re fortunate they never tried to make a sequel to.

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**Author:** ![Charger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@Charger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charger)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/44 "2007-09-24T06:46:24Z")

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Burt Reynolds wasn’t available for a _Smokey and the Bandit Part 3_, so it never got made. It’s a good thing they didn’t try to make one without him and try to get by with just a brief and pathetic cameo. Now, _that_ would have been a disaster.

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**Author:** ![beergeek279](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@beergeek279](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beergeek279)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/45 "2007-09-24T06:56:03Z")

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Hockey fans have heard the legend of a movie called Slap Shot 2, which was supposedly released direct-to-video and supposedly had a theme of right-wingers sanitizing the game of hockey into the Globetrotters on ice.

Fortunately, no hockey fan has ever been able to find such a movie.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/46 "2007-09-24T06:57:57Z")

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[QUOTE=kunilou]  
The whole _Star Trek_ numbering system never made sense to me. Why, for example, was there no _Star Trek: The Motion Picture_ ? Instead the series starts with _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn._  
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Makes perfect sense to me. Star Trek II was the sequel to Star Trek, the TV series. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/47 "2007-09-24T07:09:48Z")

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]  
While all these non-sequels are worth mentioning, I’d like to say that I’m glad no one’s tried to make a Starship Troopers movie, set to modern sensibilities, and ignoring much of the political underpinings of the book.

I’m not sure that the book could be faithfully transferred to the large screen, anyways, but at least there’s been no one making a movie that used the title then made a huge social commentary about fascism.  
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I gotta disagree with ya here. Or more in the spirit of the thread…

I’m glad that when they made Starship Troopers, they didn’t even claim to be adapting Heinlen’s book – which would have been an outrage – but rather went with a completely different route that integrated Paul Verhoeven’s dry sense of humor, a mind-blowing array of action sequences, and the only co-ed military shower scene in Hollywood history.

I mean, it’s a good thing they left Heinlen out of it, because his fascinating political treatise was stoooopid!!  
**…aaaand here’s mine:**

Ocean’s Eleven (the 2001 version), was such a fantasic movie, and it wrapped up so well, don’t you think? Can you imagine what worthless dreck might have arisen out of any attempts to follow up this great film?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/48 "2007-09-24T14:32:34Z")

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I’m glad that Gone With The Wind was such a classic with such perfect actors for the roles that nobody ever considered making a sequel, what with Margaret Mitchell dying without writing a sequel to the book.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/49 "2007-09-24T14:58:44Z")

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Talking of Star Trek, ISTR that the Romulans come from a twin-planet system? It would be really neat if there was a film about that - although they’d have to steer clear of ripping any ideas off from _The Wrath of Khan_, such as some godawful planet-destroying weapon or an heroic act of self-sacrifice from the one crew-member able to evaluate the situation utterly logically (after having made sure his consciousness was backed up, of course).

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/50 "2007-09-24T15:05:24Z")

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I heard there were talks about doing a sequel to Carrie. Luckily King’s artistic integrity prevailed over greed and the idea was soundly mocked and later dropped.

I can only imagine what kind of crap that would be.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/51 "2007-09-24T15:09:53Z")

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I’m certainly glad that they didn’t try to make a sequel to **the Sting** , especially since they couldn’t get the original actors to reprise their roles.

You’d think that if they could at least get the original screenwriter, David S, Ward, they might make a decent sequel. Surely HE wouldn’t screw up his own work.  
I’m also glad they never made a sequel to the original **King Kong** , once they found they had neither the time nor the money. God knows, it would be mostly padding!  
The only thing that would be worse would be a sequel to that godawful 1976 Dine de Laurentiis version of King Kong. That would be a TRULY AWFUL film.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/52 "2007-09-24T15:15:22Z")

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It took M_A_S\*H 11 years to end the Korean War. I was so glad when it was over and we were done with it.

Though I do have to admit that "Trapper John MD’ which not having Elliot Gould or Wayne Rogers reprise the role, was good with Pernell Roberts.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/53 "2007-09-24T15:42:03Z")

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I heard the next Spiderman is going to have Venom in it. It should be pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/54 "2007-09-24T15:49:29Z")

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It’s tragic how Ice Cube was gunned down shortly after making _Friday_, so he never got to make any sequels and he certainly never moved on to slapstick family fare.

On the bright side, at least Eddie Murphy retired from the movie business 20 years ago and hasn’t been seen since.

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**Author:** ![RumMunkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/55 "2007-09-24T16:17:26Z")

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I’m glad they stopped making Friday the 13th films after part 4.

Any more probably would have sucked.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/56 "2007-09-24T16:25:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Ranchoth]  
I’m glad they didn’t try to tack on a third Terminator movie that had impressive (but not groundbreaking) SFX, a bland new enemy (c’mon…to top T2, you’d either have to use Stallone, Linda Hamilton (as Sarah Conner’s clone-skin doppleganger), or Sigorney Weaver as a Ripley analog to work as the new Terminator.  
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A terminator Ripley… I kind of like that idea, actually.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/57 "2007-09-24T16:50:52Z")

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I’m so pleased that the people who made “Pirates of the Caribbean” followed the lead of “The Matrix”, “Star Wars”, and “Ghostbusters” and stopped when they had made a perfect popcorn movie.

What a shame the third of the “Lord of the Rings” trilogy was never filmed. Think of the fantastic scenes in “The Return of the King” we have missed out on: Merry & Eowyn killing the Witch-King after his showdown with Gandalf; Denethor’s great mad scene as he burns himself alive, along with his Palantir; Faramir’s romance with Eowyn; and most of all the hobbits’ return to a shattered Shire, showing that no place is innocent enough to escape the madness of war, followed by Frodo’s growing torment of guilt and despair. Ah well.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/58 "2007-09-24T17:04:26Z")

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_A Day at the Races_ wasn’t the Marx Brothers’ best movie, but I’m glad Chico got his gambling under control and they went out relatively on top. In fact, I’ve always felt they might have had one more good movie in them if they’d set it somewhere exotic, like Casablanca.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/59 "2007-09-24T17:27:08Z")

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Remember Grease, with all those 30-somethings playing high school students who later graduated? A sequel would have been ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-sequels-mainly-that-do-not-exist/420169/60 "2007-09-24T19:21:57Z")

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I’m sure amazed that no one has decided to tap the market of 70’s nostalgia by paying homage to some wonderfully epic sci fi classics…just think what you could do with Planet of the Apes, or Rollerball, given today’s budgets and effects. Why, it would be impossible to go wrong…

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