# Films that shouldn't've had sequels

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**Created:** [July 31, 2004, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728 "2004-07-31T15:54:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![lemon\_martini2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@lemon\_martini2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lemon_martini2)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/1 "2004-07-31T15:54:39Z")

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Mooching through my local Blockbuster’s bargain bin,I found a copy of Grease 2.And miserable it was…basically Grease but a lot less interesting,same plot,not such good songs…  
And next to it was Gregory’s 2 Girls,which was not only bad,but let down the good name of the original.A miserable attempt to bring up to date Gregory’s Girl into adult times…Yeukkkk!

So what other film sequels should have stayed in someone’s overworked little brain?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/2 "2004-07-31T16:04:24Z")

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I think I can safely say that **Caddyshack 2** is one of the worst movies ever made. **Smokey and the Bandit 2** was bad… **Smokey and the Bandit 3** was pathetic. \*\*Home Alone 3 \*\* was horrible. I think I’ll add **Rocky V** as well as the \*\*Next Karate Kid \*\* to the list.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/3 "2004-07-31T16:10:58Z")

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I second the motion on _Caddyshack 2;_ the original was a self-contained masterpiece, with no room for a sequel, considering how all the loose ends tied up. Jackie Mason deserved better.

_Star Trek V_ was the movie that opened my eyes to the fact that everyone who gave a damn about Star Trek had moved on, and that the people making the movies were running on sheer momentum. That, and greed.

_Conan The Destroyer_. Whose idea was this? And whose idea was it to put Grace Jones in it? And rubber bat wings on the Grand Vizier’s helmet? It almost works as a comedy, though.

Rather than list a whole lot of movies, here, though, I will say this: _If the original was a theatrical release, and the sequel isn’t a theatrical release, avoid it like the plague._ Experience has taught me that when a sequel goes direct to video, then it was a bad idea to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/4 "2004-07-31T16:12:10Z")

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_Dumb and Dumber_. The idea of a sequel to _Dumb and Dumber_ is silly enough, nevermind that it was a prequel and didn’t have either star.

_Silence of the Lambs_. _Hannibal_ didn’t even come close, and the remake of _Red Dragon_ probably didn’t either(I didn’t see it).

_Rush Hour_. The sequel was the exact same movie as the first one.

_The Fast and the Furious_.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/5 "2004-07-31T16:15:04Z")

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> [@Master Wang-Ka](#):
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> _If the original was a theatrical release, and the sequel isn’t a theatrical release, avoid it like the plague._ Experience has taught me that when a sequel goes direct to video, then it was a bad idea to begin with.

Nicely put.

_Major League_ didn’t need a sequel, much less two of them.

_Air Bud_ shouldn’t have been made, and there were how many sequels? I don’t think they were all straight-to-video or I wouldn’t have mentioned it.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/6 "2004-07-31T16:20:41Z")

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t there already a very lenghty discussion going on the front page about sequels that shouldn’t exist?

But there is one exception to your theatrical-straight to video rule:

**Tremors 2**

It brings back Earl and Burt the new cast fills out the movie well. Kevin Bacon was asked to make a cameo as well and he almost did. The sequel is almost as fun as the first one, and so what if it’s direct to video.

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**Author:** ![Roadwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Roadwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadwalker)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/7 "2004-07-31T16:33:02Z")

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Highlander was a fun film by itself. I felt that I needed to bang my head on the ground to forget its sequel.  
Ghostbusters II should never have been made.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/8 "2004-07-31T16:35:08Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t there already a very lenghty discussion going on the front page about sequels that shouldn’t exist?

Slightly different category. That one is “Sequels You’ve Decided Don’t Exist,” which to me means good movies that had bad sequels. This is about movies (usually bad ones) that shouldn’t have had sequels in the first place.

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**Author:** ![BytopianDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@BytopianDream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BytopianDream)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/9 "2004-07-31T16:35:48Z")

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The Matrix.

Bleck!

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**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/10 "2004-07-31T16:39:42Z")

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_Tremors  
Tremors 2  
Tremors 3  
Tremors 4: Electric Boogaloo_

Okay, **Justin\_Bailey** , I’ll admit that _Tremors 2_ wasn’t _awful_. But have you seen the last two movies? :eek:

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**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/11 "2004-07-31T16:42:04Z")

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Hmm. Maybe I shouldn’t have included _Tremors 4_ since it hasn’t had a sequel yet. But you know it’s coming…

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/12 "2004-07-31T16:48:17Z")

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What Tremors 3? There is no Tremors 3. There is no such thing as Ass Blasters.

But I’ve honestly never seen Tremors 4.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/13 "2004-07-31T16:49:28Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> _Silence of the Lambs_. _Hannibal_ didn’t even come close, and the remake of _Red Dragon_ probably didn’t either(I didn’t see it).

I was actually pleasantly surprised with Red Dragon. Much better than Hannibal. Still not up to the Silence standard, but what could be?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/14 "2004-07-31T17:05:52Z")

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> [@Nightwatch Trailer](#):
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> Hmm. Maybe I shouldn’t have included _Tremors 4_ since it hasn’t had a sequel yet. But you know it’s coming…

There was a prequel which came and went [seven months ago](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0334541/releaseinfo).

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/15 "2004-07-31T17:06:23Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> What Tremors 3? There is no Tremors 3. There is no such thing as Ass Blasters.
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> But I’ve honestly never seen Tremors 4.

Hey, I thought the ass blasters were hysterical.

But a fourth movie? Never heard of it, though there was a short-lived (and not bad) TV series, with Michael Gross right in the thick of it.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/16 "2004-07-31T17:20:38Z")

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> [@Master Wang-Ka](#):
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> _Star Trek V_ was the movie that opened my eyes to the fact that everyone who gave a damn about Star Trek had moved on, and that the people making the movies were running on sheer momentum. That, and greed.

**Star Trek V** was made more for ego than for greed. Nimoy directed **Star Trek IV** , did a great job, and justly won a lot of critical attention and praise. Once that happened, nothing on earth would keep Shatner from following suit, and it was a total botch, rightly reviled by critics and fans alike.

**Trek VI** , while not outstanding, wasn’t bad… which implies that the problem wasn’t that the series had run out of gas, or that all the good people had left. The inference was that Mr. Bill sucks big time both as a writer and as a director.

Note the correct usage of “infer” and “imply”.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/17 "2004-07-31T18:10:11Z")

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> [@Master Wang-Ka](#):
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> _Conan The Destroyer_. Whose idea was this? And whose idea was it to put Grace Jones in it? And rubber bat wings on the Grand Vizier’s helmet? It almost works as a comedy, though.

If you’ve read any of Howard’s stories, you’ll see that Conan The Destroyer was largely faithful to the spirit of Conan.

For me, Grace Jones running around in skimpy clothing is rather a plus

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**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/18 "2004-07-31T18:39:20Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> But a fourth movie? Never heard of it, though there was a short-lived (and not bad) TV series, with Michael Gross right in the thick of it.

The [fourth](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0334541/) movie (another non-theatrical one) starred our old friend Michael Gross (Burt in the first film) and is set in an earlier time (IMDB says the 1800s).

It was on TV recently (maybe last week?). Though I couldn’t force myself to watch all of it, my recommendation is: avoid.

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**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/19 "2004-07-31T18:41:55Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Hey, I thought the ass blasters were hysterical.
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> But a fourth movie? Never heard of it, though there was a short-lived (and not bad) TV series, with Michael Gross right in the thick of it.

Which makes me wonder, should Michael Gross be applauded for being smart enough to milk it for all it’s worth or should he be pitied as a passed over actor who can’t get better roles?

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**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-that-shouldntve-had-sequels/257728/20 "2004-07-31T20:18:38Z")

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“Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” was an amiable, fun piece of fluff.  
“Honey, I Blew Up the Kid” was … tolerable.  
“Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves” was just plain ghastly.  
And let’s not even mention the TV series, OK?

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