# Films/TV from different perspectives that you would like to see...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 12, 2009, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979 "2009-12-12T09:14:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lethal\_Babydoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@Lethal\_Babydoll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lethal_Babydoll)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/21 "2009-12-13T14:02:24Z")

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How about showing what Brad, Flock of Seagulls, Marvin and the boys were up to until Jules and Vincent walked through the door.

Like, how did they get the case. What do they talk about, if not foot massages

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/22 "2009-12-13T19:05:32Z")

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Speaking of _Hamlet_, Ophelia’s POV.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/23 "2009-12-13T19:34:49Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> Yes! I love the movie, have probably seen it a couple of dozen times. While watching it about 15 years ago, I realized that I was sympathizing with Mrs. R more than Ben. She made the first move (propositioning Ben), but from that point on Ben quickly becomes as self-centered and insensitive as she is, and by movie’s end _he_ is more the villain than she.

I never felt very sympathetic toward Ben, he just seemed so…aimless. And self-absorbed. I don’t think it’s unusual for a young person to feel somewhat directionless after college, but a lot of Ben’s behavior seemed more like a teenager than a young-but-adult man.

I get the impression that at the time of the movie’s release people saw Mrs. Robinson as an example of the sexual hypocrisy of the older generation, but she seemed to me more the victim of the values of her own time. “Victim” may be too strong a word, since the Robinsons were well-off financially and it didn’t appear that Mr. Robinson was in any way abusive, but she struck me as one of those '50s-'60s housewives suffering from “the problem that has no name”. Her behavior during the course of the movie was very bad, but this was a woman who’d had little chance to live her own life. She’d given up college and any hope of a career to marry a man she didn’t really love and care for a child she hadn’t planned for. With Elaine grown and out of the house there wasn’t much left to occupy her attention. While there are certainly more positive ways she could have dealt with this than drinking too much, seducing younger men, and worst of all lying about it, she also had good reason to want to shake things up.

The last time I watched the movie it occurred to me that Mrs. Robinson may initially have been motivated by a desire to provoke Mr. Robinson into either jealous affection for her or divorce. (It would be another two or three years before “no-fault” divorce laws would have allowed her to divorce him very easily.) The night she makes her first seduction attempt, she tells Ben that her husband won’t be home for hours. He actually comes home just a few minutes later. Did she expect this or not? Was she just looking for a good time, or was she planning for her husband to catch her _in flagrante_ with another man? That’s the kind of thing a story from her perspective could address.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/24 "2009-12-14T00:11:39Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I never felt very sympathetic toward Ben, he just seemed so…aimless. And self-absorbed. I don’t think it’s unusual for a young person to feel somewhat directionless after college, but a lot of Ben’s behavior seemed more like a teenager than a young-but-adult man…SNIP…Did she expect this or not? Was she just looking for a good time, or was she planning for her husband to catch her _in flagrante_ with another man? That’s the kind of thing a story from her perspective could address.

Yes to everything you said. I always thought I was the only one who saw it this way.  
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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/25 "2009-12-14T00:16:07Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I never felt very sympathetic toward Ben, he just seemed so…aimless. And self-absorbed…
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> SNIP
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> …That’s the kind of thing a story from her perspective could address.

Yes, to everything you said. I always thought I was the only one who saw the movie this way.  
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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/26 "2009-12-14T00:31:39Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I get the impression that at the time of the movie’s release people saw Mrs. Robinson as an example of the sexual hypocrisy of the older generation

Correct. I was seventeen when it was released, and my tribe definitely saw it as “Sexually Repressed Hypocritical Older Generation” vs “Sexually Open and Free Love Generation.”

We had it all figured out, doncha know.  
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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/27 "2009-12-14T01:11:01Z")

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> [@Leiko](#):
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> More seriously, I’d have eagerly watched a companion series to “Star Trek: Voyager” that focused on the families and friends of the Voyager crew plus Starfleet command during Voyager’s time in the Delta Quadrant. More Barclay! More Dominion War drama! More Vulcans!

A Star Trek series involving the token Terran amongst a crew of Vulcans. Would challenge the creators/writers to devise a more diverse set of Vulcan personalities beyond “We’re all about logic.” [Similar to the challenges awaiting Del Toro/Jackson in dealing with a dozen dwarves in The Hobbit movie]

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/28 "2009-12-14T04:37:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Similar to the challenges awaiting Del Toro/Jackson in dealing with a dozen dwarves in The Hobbit movie

Well, there’s happy, sleepy, dopey, bashful, grumpy, and sneezy. That puts them halfway there.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/29 "2009-12-14T04:42:05Z")

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_Desert Kickboxer_ from Rooster and Greasy Joe’s point of view.

_The Karate Kid, Part III_ from Dennis’s point of view.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/30 "2009-12-14T15:36:15Z")

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Two from Ira Levin–Rosemary’s Baby from Rosemary’s husband Guy’s POV and The Stepford Wives from Joanna’s husband Walter’s POV.

Both of these guys sell their wives out and for very limited reasons. Guy wants his big break, so he lets his wife be raped, impregnanted and give birth to Satan’s child? Why would Walter agree to have his wife replaced by a robot?

There’s too much going on behind the scenes with both husbands. I’d like to read about the covern meetings and what really goes in in the Stepford Men’s Club.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/31 "2009-12-14T16:07:12Z")

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I’d like to see virtually any Bond film from the perspective of the last nameless, faceless henchman who gets disposed of like so much dirty laundry.

I’ve always wondered what sort of childhood a henchman might have had.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/32 "2009-12-14T17:51:35Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> …Maybe Sauron wasn’t really evil. Maybe he was a great man who was trying to overthrow the human/elven aristocratic tyranny and bring freedom to the oppressed races of Middle Earth.

That’s just what he _wants_ you to think! Don’t buy into the Mordor propaganda, man. Still, until they make the movie, check out: [http://www.kunochan.com/sauron/](http://www.kunochan.com/sauron/)

How about _The Patriot_ from the POV of Col. Tavington, the villain?

Or _Star Wars_ from Biggs’s perspective? Or Mace Windu’s?

Or _Casablanca_ from Capt. Renault’s POV?

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/33 "2009-12-14T18:45:01Z")

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I would like to have seen a _Quantum Leap_ from the POV of a friend of the Leaped-Into. They should have gotten into the habit of doing one of those a year or so, just to give Scott and Dean a break.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/34 "2009-12-14T19:00:03Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> _Buffy_ from an average vampire’s point of view. Perhaps this episode would answer the question “why hang around a town called **Sunny** dale where a legendary **Vampire Slayer** lives and hunts?” (Yeah, I know: the Hellmouth. But none of the Vamps were exactly trying to get into the damn thing).

Years and years ago, I wrote a spec script for Buffy that was designed to be a “Michelle Gellar is filming a movie while we need to film this episode, what can we do?” epsiode. Buffy and company only appeared in footage from previous episodes (save for Spike who has a larger role). It detailed the every day lives of two Sunnydale vamps trying to stay under Buffy’s radar. They end up getting swept up as background fodder in just about every season’s Big Bad’s scheme and just barely manage to escape. I forgot how the episode ended, I think Spike or Buffy ended up accidentally staking one of them.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/35 "2009-12-14T19:01:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Little Nemo View Post  
> …Maybe Sauron wasn’t really evil. Maybe he was a great man who was trying to overthrow the human/elven aristocratic tyranny and bring freedom to the oppressed races of Middle Earth.

A slight left turn from the topic at hand, but Banewreaker by Jacqueline Carey tells the story of a “force of darkness-type god” and asks the question, is the entire world thinks you’re bad, does that become a self-fulfilling prophesy? The god’s point of view is that he is in the right but lost the battle with the other gods – sort of a history is written by the victors kind of thing.

Back to the topic, I’d love to read the Harry Potter series from Snape’s point of view. I know you get a lot in the books, but he’s such an interesting character.

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**Author:** ![ryobserver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b2d939/32.png) [@ryobserver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryobserver)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/36 "2009-12-15T02:04:52Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> I myself wrote a 30-page treatment of Renfield’s POV in DRACULA.

Barbara Hambly wrote a full-length novel: _Renfield, Slave of Dracula_.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/37 "2009-12-15T03:10:00Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Jeeves and Wooster from Jeeves’ POV. Actually, along the lines of Mammy/Gone with the Wind, a LOT of stories would probably be cool from the servants’ POV. Rebecca from Mrs. Danvers’ perspective would be hella fun. Scary, but fun.

I believe that one of Wodehouse’s stories WAS told from Jeeve’s perspective…

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/38 "2009-12-15T04:10:12Z")

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_20,000 Leagues Under the Sea_ from the POV of Nemo’s first mate. What was really going on in these guys minds that made them take up this kind of life. What did they think of Nemo as time went on? What did they think of his"guests", all of whom got treated better than the crew?

Also, _The Prisoner of Zenda_ from Duke Michael’s POV as he tries to save his beloved country from an inbred drunken idiot.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/39 "2009-12-15T23:59:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> That’s just what he _wants_ you to think! Don’t buy into the Mordor propaganda, man. Still, until they make the movie, check out: [http://www.kunochan.com/sauron/](http://www.kunochan.com/sauron/)

[The New URL for Sauron’s Blog](http://www.sauronsblog.com/). 😃

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-tv-from-different-perspectives-that-you-would-like-to-see/520979/40 "2009-12-16T01:12:31Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> A Star Trek series involving the token Terran amongst a crew of Vulcans. Would challenge the creators/writers to devise a more diverse set of Vulcan personalities beyond “We’re all about logic.” [Similar to the challenges awaiting Del Toro/Jackson in dealing with a dozen dwarves in The Hobbit movie]

Personalities of the dwarfs

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