# Films whose fans are even more annoying then the film itself

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**Created:** [February 10, 2005, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383 "2005-02-10T12:42:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/21 "2005-02-10T22:04:58Z")

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> [@aegypt](#):
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> The films are:  
> 6 Lord of the Rings  
> 17 Star Wars…  
> How do “single movie nerds” behave, and why do some people find it annoying?

Not that the films that round out my top 5 list are ‘single movies’ – but if you take the following franchises:**Star Wars  
LOTR  
Star Trek  
Spiderman  
Batman**You pretty much have the creme de la creme of annoying. Fans of the above have literally taken over a good chunk of this forum and 1/2 the world wide web. You want proof?

[IMDB’s _Top_ 250 as voted by our users](http://www.imdb.com/chart/top) :dubious:

> [@](#):
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> 1. 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 129,154
> 2. 8.6 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 99,587
> 3. 8.0 Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) 79,076 :eek:

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**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/22 "2005-02-10T22:32:59Z")

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> [@D.E.S.K.Top668](#):
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> The most annoying single movie fans I’ve met in the last couple of years have been Matrix fans. Hearing about how deep and philosophical this OK Friday-night popcorn and beer action movie is makes me want access to Neo’s armory.

Matrix is a shoot-em-up version of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave. (The first half, at least.) It’s not much deeper than that – an adaptation of Plato’s fable – but to suggest that it’s nothing _more_ than a “popcorn and beer action movie” is disingenuous.

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/23 "2005-02-10T22:38:18Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> Guess what fellas–it’s funny because of _who_ did it!

It’s funny if you’re between the ages of 12 and 15.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/24 "2005-02-10T22:55:15Z")

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Is the list in any kind of order? If so, why doesn’t Star Wars top the list? And why on Earth is Shawshank Redemption on there? It’s a really good movie, but I’ve never met an annoying fan. People just kind of say, “Oh, yeah - that was a good movie.” They don’t have Shawshank conventions where people dress up like their favorite characters, do they?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/25 "2005-02-10T22:58:39Z")

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
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> [IMDB’s _Top_ 250 as voted by our users](http://www.imdb.com/chart/top) :dubious:

A couple of years ago they were all in the top 7 or so. _Star Wars_ was number 3 for a loooong time after #1 _Kane_ and #2 _Godfather_. Without even looking now I’d guess that _Godfather_ is back to number 1 ( :rolleyes: ) and _RotK_ ( :rolleyes: ) is somehow holding on to number 2.

Most of those movies belong in a top 100 or top 200 list, not a top 10 list.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/26 "2005-02-10T22:59:18Z")

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And where’s Harry Potter on that list?

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/27 "2005-02-10T23:16:48Z")

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Yeah, we Big Lebowski fans are probably incredibly annoying. My fiance and I are always Walter and The Dude when we go bowling. And we fight over who gets to be The Dude. 😃

The newest movie to make this list has to be Napoleon Dynamite. I freakin’ love it, but all of us who love it have to be driving everyone else freakin’ crazy with the quotes. Gosh!

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/28 "2005-02-10T23:17:14Z")

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I didn’t know there was anyone in the world aside from me who was a fanatical **Wayne’s World** fan. But apparently there are, and they’re annoying. Or maybe **I** ’m annoying.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/29 "2005-02-10T23:47:24Z")

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> [@Tracy Lord](#):
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> Matrix is a shoot-em-up version of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave. (The first half, at least.) It’s not much deeper than that – an adaptation of Plato’s fable – but to suggest that it’s nothing _more_ than a “popcorn and beer action movie” is disingenuous.

I think it purports to be deep, but comes across like it was made by two guys who took a Intro to Philosophy course, showed up a handful of times, and tried to read some Eastern philosophy while stoned because the dude living across the hall told them they’d be cool.

Don’t even get me started on Shawshank being #2 at IMDb…

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/30 "2005-02-11T00:12:51Z")

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#15: The Seventh Seal. Whaaa? What do these annoying fans do - wear black robes and play chess?

I know some really annoying people who are in love with the movie **Snatch**. I thought it was OK, but I don’t walk around saying “Periwinkle Blue” in Brad Pitt’s accent or quoting Vinnie Jones monologues.

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/31 "2005-02-11T00:22:00Z")

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> [@Dooku](#):
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> I know some really annoying people who are in love with the movie **Snatch**. I thought it was OK, but I don’t walk around saying “Periwinkle Blue” in Brad Pitt’s accent or quoting Vinnie Jones monologues.

Thank heaven, I do neither of those things. I’m sure there are other annoying things I do that I don’t notice. Like randomly saying “If you turn an M upside down, it looks just like a G!”\* and then giggling.

~ kfl, President and Founder of the Official Unofficial Guy Ritchie Fan Club.

\*It’s why he ate his wife’s crackers (that had her initals on them).

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/32 "2005-02-11T00:26:53Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> Is the list in any kind of order? If so, why doesn’t Star Wars top the list? And why on Earth is Shawshank Redemption on there? It’s a really good movie, but I’ve never met an annoying fan. People just kind of say, “Oh, yeah - that was a good movie.” They don’t have Shawshank conventions where people dress up like their favorite characters, do they?

Just a WAG, but I’d say it’s because every diehard fan of Shawshank will let everyone else know…

ITS

THE

BEST

MOVIE

EVER

OVER

AND

OVER!

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/33 "2005-02-11T04:13:24Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think [the Matrix] purports to be deep, but comes across like it was made by two guys who took a Intro to Philosophy course, showed up a handful of times, and tried to read some Eastern philosophy while stoned because the dude living across the hall told them they’d be cool.

Exactly. In addition, it is presenting a very old philosophical idea as though the Wachowski’s had invented it for the movie. That is inexcusable. If you’re using an old concept like that (even a powerful one), you don’t pretend it’s yours. Mentioning Plato would have helped, though it wouldn’t have changed the fact that all the philosophy was monumentally boring.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/34 "2005-02-11T04:18:51Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I suspect he’s referring to people who take the Brad Pitt character’s philosophy as gospel, while somehow missing out that the purpose of the movie is to demonstrate that his philosophy is as hollow and nihilistic as the culture against which it is supposedly rebelling. I recall reading a “Letter to the Editor” in the Datebook section of the Chronicle from a guy who had been so inspired by the movie that he had enlisted in the army to “reclaim his manhood.”
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> There’re some stupid, scary people out there.

Thank you, that’s pretty much it. “You are not a unique snowflake!” As if they wouldn’t be all about their material goods if they had a job and some cash flow coming in.

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**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/35 "2005-02-11T04:20:52Z")

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> [@Terminus Est](#):
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> Fans of _Showgirls_ (and Paul Verhoeven in general) come to mind…

This was exactly what I opened the thread to say.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/36 "2005-02-11T04:42:57Z")

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My most memorable experience with this phenomenon was having a film school student explain to me the depth and symbolism of David Lynch’s _Eraserhead_. I really came to appreciate Woody Allen’s plea from _Annie Hall_: “What I wouldn’t give for a large sock filled with horse manure.”

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/37 "2005-02-11T05:58:00Z")

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Office Space. Office Space. Office Space. Office Space.

I am going to do something profoundly unpleasant to the next person who tells me how unbelievably awesome and hilarious this movie is, and what a scathing satire of the corporate environment it offers.

First of all, the damned thing is simply not all that funny. It takes obvious joke material that work-oriented comics have been riffing for years (“Corporations have too much paperwork!” Ha! “Middle management is annoying!” Hooo hoo haha! Oh, the mirth!), does absolutely nothing original with it, and all in all ends up about as amusing as your average Dilbert strip…provided said Dilbert strip is being staple-gunned to my naked eyeball at the time.

But hey, comedy’s subjective. If you think the movie’s funny, that’s great.

There’s just one teensy, weensy, itsy bitsy little problem. You know the “scathing satire of corporate America” that this movie is so loudly touted as being? Well, that’s _not what the movie’s about_. Sure, that’s what the ads say it’s about. Sure, that’s what everybody who insists upon extolling its virtues as if it’s the second coming of Og will tell you it’s about. But if you actually watch the thing – and I have, three times, just to prove to myself I wasn’t hallucinating during the first two – you’ll notice that, while the first fifteen minutes or so do indeed focus on that particular topic, the rest of it is a heist movie. And not a particularly interesting heist movie. They took a real-life heist scheme that wasn’t funny in the least, and exaggerated it for comedic effect by having the characters…do exactly the same thing.

“But wait! They smashed a printer! And there was an Indian guy! …at least I think he was Indian! He was ethnic, anyway, and ethnic people are funny! And Jennifer Aniston had to wear pins! And this dude’s name was Michael Bolton! And – get this – _he didn’t like Michael Bolton!_ And the one guy tried to get fired! And they kept promoting him for no reason whatsoever! Which has nothing to do with what a corporation would actually do and is quite likely the exact opposite of it, rather than a comedic exaggeration…but it was funny! Cause they didn’t fire him! T3H MO0V1E 15 1334!!!11!!!”

Aaargh. Og deliver me from Office Space fans. Much like another well-documented dislike of mine, I would most probably be entirely apathetic toward it if a seeming 90% of the people I talked to didn’t uphold it as the Best F’in Thing Ever Made. And no, I don’t unleash this rant upon them; I just smile and nod, and listen as they proclaim their adoration. Come to think of it, that too might have something to do with my current level of ire. Go figure.

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**Author:** ![hazel-rah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/73ab20/32.png) [@hazel-rah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hazel-rah)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/38 "2005-02-11T06:14:34Z")

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Sure Office Space isn’t a good movie per se, but it’s got a good half-dozen scenes that are just untouchable. Parts of it were so true-to-life (IMHO) they just crack me up every time.

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**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/39 "2005-02-11T06:14:44Z")

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The Seventh Seal? He must be really tired of all the geeks who reinact that chess game…

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/films-whose-fans-are-even-more-annoying-then-the-film-itself/289383/40 "2005-02-11T06:20:19Z")

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> [@hazel-rah](#):
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> Sure Office Space isn’t a good movie per se, but it’s got a good half-dozen scenes that are just untouchable. Parts of it were so true-to-life (IMHO) they just crack me up every time.

Oh, I laughed a few times. I must admit the smashing of the printer was kind of a catharsis-by-proxy moment. My rant is directed more towards the rabid fanboys (and girls). I mean, hey, I actually liked Cabin Fever, and if that’s a better movie, it ain’t by much. The difference is, I’m not going to go around telling everybody that Cabin Fever is the greatest horror film ever made and brilliantly redefines every aspect of the genre. A little perspective is all I ask.

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