# Finagle is Fucking Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2002, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444 "2002-05-16T21:22:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GreyMatters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a9a28c/32.png) [@GreyMatters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreyMatters)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/1 "2002-05-16T21:22:50Z")
I wanted tell Finagle to FUCK OFF! You debate like a mirror. Your arguments are shallow and made by other people. You don’t read people’s posts and your deductive logical reasoning is at the level fo a two year old. Fuck you. Fuck Off. Oh yeah, this is a Metaphysical Reality, Finagle. That means that I am just a figment of your imagination, which means I am you, which means you think you are a FUCKING ASSHOLE. Now you, prick sod, prove me wrong. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/2 "2002-05-16T21:37:14Z")
Right the fuck on, brother!! . . . ohhhh, a _poster_ named Finagle. I thought you were railing against the fundamental perversity of the universe. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/3 "2002-05-16T21:41:03Z")
uhhhhh. . . . there was one? ---
**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/4 "2002-05-16T21:43:05Z")
I’d dearly love to join you in your riteous war against this poster who most dreadfully wounded you, if I had any fucking idea what you were talking about. What does a guy have to do to get a link around here? ---
**Author:** ![GreyMatters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a9a28c/32.png) [@GreyMatters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreyMatters)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/5 "2002-05-16T21:44:29Z")
Finagle IS the personification of a fundemental pervisity of the universe. He’s just too stupid to realize he is that fucking horrible. He would be a really cool fucking asshole if he knew that about himself. ---
**Author:** ![GreyMatters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a9a28c/32.png) [@GreyMatters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreyMatters)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/6 "2002-05-16T21:47:13Z")
Sorry, I hope that works. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=115009](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=115009) ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/7 "2002-05-16T21:52:58Z")
I hadn’t read that thread beyond the first few posts, but I always feel that if a Great Debate spawns a Pit thread, it’s worth checking out. So I did. Sorry, **GreyMatters** , but it looked to me like **Finagle** was kicking your ass all up and down that debate. Further, he was using cogent, logical arguments, whereas you were just spouting a bunch of sophomoric existentialist claptrap. And resorting to personal insults. From **Finagle** : > [@](#): > > As for your disagreeing with Turing, well that’s a poser. Now I have to decide who I want in my corner, one of the world’s most brilliant and original thinkers who anticipated and crushed all of your arguments 40 years before you were born, or some unknown on the internet who can’t be bothered to read up on the subject before spewing all over the place. I’ll have to think about that one. Heh heh. 🙂 Sorry, man…if anyone was being a “fucking asshole” in that thread…well, it wasn’t him. IMHO, of course. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/8 "2002-05-16T21:54:55Z")
Whether or not I care about the shitstorm, this is simply priceless: > [@](#): > > You debate like a mirror. Your arguments are shallow and made by other people. A fucking thing of beauty! [wipes tear from eye] Must remember that line! ---
**Author:** ![Regina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Regina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regina)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/9 "2002-05-16T22:07:02Z")
Looks like someone got their feelings hurt when someone else disagreed with them. Sorry,\*\* GreyMatters\*\*, but the way I read the thread was you postulated an idea, he disagreed, bringing up the Turing test, and you disagreed with his interpretation with the Turing test, and **you** started in with the personal remarks: “You are so far off base about the application of science here that you may not be able to understand what is coming next.” It just went downhill from there. OK, you disagreed with his logic, and that’s o.k., that’s what we’re here for, but instead of arguing you got personal. I thought Finagle was doing a pretty good job of ignoring your personal attacks and defending his position, but you just wouldn’t let it go, getting more and more personal, and he attacked back. Is there more history behind you two than just this one thread, because I don’t understand your animosity. ---
**Author:** ![GreyMatters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a9a28c/32.png) [@GreyMatters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreyMatters)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/10 "2002-05-16T22:08:25Z")
Fuck you too Ferrous. I am not looking for support, approval, or trying to win a contest here. But, answer me this oh wise Ferret; how do you answer a question that hasn’t been defined. Of-FUCKING-course the best answer is going to be pure bullshit. But, here you give it a try. Go to GD and solve the riddle. Not only will you be a hero here, but you most likely be touted as the smartest man alive. Oh yeah. Fuck you Finagle. ---
**Author:** ![Regina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Regina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regina)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/11 "2002-05-16T22:12:48Z")
Geez, fuck me too, because I don’t agree with you? That’s your answer for everything, I guess. I’m glad you’re not here for approval or support because that’s no way to go about it. Everyone: we disagree You: Fuck everyone! Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![GreyMatters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a9a28c/32.png) [@GreyMatters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreyMatters)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/12 "2002-05-16T22:16:45Z")
Another fucking Moron that refuses to read the posts. I told Ferrous to fuck off. Not you. I was joking around with Ferrous. But, now you deserve one too, now. Even though you and Ferrous are right. Fuck off AlaItalia. ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/13 "2002-05-16T22:19:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GreyMatters \* > **Fuck you too Ferrous.** You wound me. Yeah, **Finagle** is the asshole here. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > \*\*But, answer me this oh wise Ferret; how do you answer a question that hasn’t been defined. Of-FUCKING-course the best answer is going to be pure bullshit. > > But, here you give it a try. Go to GD and solve the riddle. Not only will you be a hero here, but you most likely be touted as the smartest man alive. \*\* Nah. If I had anything meaningful to contribute to that debate, I’d have posted there. (See, unlike some people, I usually try keep my mouth shut if I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.) My comments are strictly about you characterizing someone as a fucking asshole simply because they don’t agree with you. Grow up. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/14 "2002-05-16T22:20:21Z")
This is some great material GreyMatter, should make for a predictable thread. I’ll just take my fuck off now, if you don’t mind, so I don’t have to come back after work. ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/15 "2002-05-16T22:21:32Z")
Oh, you snuck one in on me. That was a joke? Well, consider me whooshed then. You seem to have a rather…um, unique sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![GreyMatters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a9a28c/32.png) [@GreyMatters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreyMatters)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/16 "2002-05-16T22:39:33Z")
Ferrous, concerning the actual content of the GD thread, when dealing with Philosophical shit ANYTHING goes. It is philosophy, right? The worst that could happen is you say something someone else has already said. I wasn’t characterizing Finagle because he disagreed with me. There were plenty before him I could have pissed off at then. What pissed me off was: I wrote the question was moot. Then Finagle writes over and over again that I am wrong because Turing says the question is meaningless. Now I could be all fucked here but I really really really did mean the same thing as meaningless when I wrote moot, but DIPSHITFinalge, just kept on saying wrong. So, that’s it. That is why I am pissed. Not because I was saying anything astounding and he wasn’t getting it. It was because Iwas saying the same fucking thing and he disagreed. The least he could have done was read my shit if he was going to comment on it. To those i left out: FUCK OFF. ---
**Author:** ![Regina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Regina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regina)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/17 "2002-05-16T22:59:12Z")
> [@](#): > > Fuck off AlaItalia. What, no funny take on my name? I am so disappointed. > [@](#): > > It was because Iwas saying the same fucking thing and he disagreed. So you admit you’re just mad because someone disagreed with you after \*\*you \*\*said the question was meaningless. Why couldn’t he just agree with you that the question was meaningless? What a jerk, not just taking your word for it and daring to argue with you. Obviously, if **you** say the question is meaningless, then it must be, and that’s the end of the discussion. This moron did read your posts in that thread, and while I may agree with you that the question was moot/meaningless, that doesn’t mean **Finagle** is an asshole and worthy of a Pit thread just for disagreeing with us and giving back as good as he got. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/18 "2002-05-16T23:06:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Whether or not I care about the shitstorm Actually, **erislover** , I think it’s more of a shitshower. Or perhaps a light shitdrizzle. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/19 "2002-05-16T23:13:31Z")
with periods of wail ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2002, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444/20 "2002-05-16T23:14:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GreyMatters \* > \*\*What pissed me off was: I wrote the question was moot. Then Finagle writes over and over again that I am wrong because Turing says the question is meaningless. > > Now I could be all fucked here but I really really really did mean the same thing as meaningless when I wrote moot, but DIPSHITFinalge, just kept on saying wrong. > > So, that’s it. That is why I am pissed. Not because I was saying anything astounding and he wasn’t getting it. It was because Iwas saying the same fucking thing and he disagreed. \*\* Not quite. You said it was impossible to say whether AI was possible or not, because consciousness has not been defined. He said that it was not necessary to define consciousness in order to discuss AI. You also disagreed about the point of the Turing Test. You argued that it means that all questions about consciousness are meaningless. He argued that the test gives us a handy work-around so that we don’t need to worry about what consciousness is. Perhaps _you_ need to practice your reading comprehension, just a bit? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finagle-is-fucking-asshole/109444.md?page=2)