# Finally finished Final Fantasy X! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 13, 2003, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320 "2003-09-13T01:32:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![karomon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@karomon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karomon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/21 "2003-09-13T17:23:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Level 3 key spheres are easy to come by, though. I’m pretty sure you can win them fighting in either the Omega Ruins or the last dungeon. No, I’ve tried. I went everywhere. After you get a certain amount of them, they stop being handed out. Um … and _might_ mean level 4 spheres. I don’t remember anymore. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/22 "2003-09-13T17:26:22Z")
Ah, level 4 spheres are a bit tougher to get. I think you have to steal them from Nemesis, the last boss in the monster arena. Unlocking Nemesis requires that you beat all the other unique creations there, so you may be out of luck–some of them will be damn tough without auto-life. You could always try the Magus sisters. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2003, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/23 "2003-09-13T18:10:23Z")
I found a Level 4 sphere in a chest… somewhere… might have been outside the Tower Of The Dead. I started to play the game over again. I’m learning from my mistakes and this time, my goal is to finish the Monster Arena. I’m also going to see how fast I can complete the game. Once I’ve done that, I’ll play trying to get the Legendary Weapons. Aw, hell, I’m just gonna play in as many permutations as I can, until FFX2 comes out in December. My poor girlfriend is an FFX widow! ---
**Author:** ![RobuSensei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@RobuSensei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobuSensei)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/24 "2003-09-13T18:34:47Z")
I hope you all aren’t expecting FFX-2 to be just more of FFX… ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/25 "2003-09-13T18:47:36Z")
No, I’m more looking forward to the GIGANTIC SLUT-FEST it appears to be, based on the gaming mag my roomie showed me the other night. Since when does Yuna dress like Britney Spears? Of course, we all knew Rikku was going to end up as a good-time girl, so no surprise _there_… Tee hee hee ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/26 "2003-09-13T22:47:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MaggietheCat \* > Last time through, I decided to run everybody all the way through the sphere grid, just for the heck of it. By the time I was done, and with the legendary weapons (for the break damage limit) I was hitting for 99,999 points a hit. I also managed to beat all the nasty beasties in the arena, except the Flan. The Jumbo Flan is a pain, and you have to do some buildup to take it out. Before you tackle it, you need to beat up on One-eye for a while and collect Magic Defense +4 spheres. Sell off the huge pile of AP weapons you also get from him to buy clear spheres, then clear weak nodes on the grid (stat +2 and +3 nodes) and replace them with MD+4 until you can max out Yuna’s magic defense. It’ll take nearly fifty of them if you clear all the weak MD nodes in the process. Once you’ve done that, the Aeons are nearly immune to magic. At this point, you should be able to take out the flan with Anima using Pain. If you’re still having trouble, give Anima the Haste spell, autoreflect a character, and try again–cast Slow on the reflected character (which will Slow the flan), then summon Anima and have her Haste herself and do Pain. **karomon** and **ultrafilter** , I think you can bribe Chimera Brains for level 4 keys. It takes around 200,000 gil, I think. I don’t remember if you get one key or two. ---
**Author:** ![karomon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@karomon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karomon)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/27 "2003-09-14T01:27:49Z")
Thanks, **Balance**. I never tried bribing anything, maybe it’ll work out that way. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/28 "2003-09-14T02:58:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \* > \*\*Sure it was sad about Auron, but don’t you think the game stressed that Unsent were … unnatural (I’m tempted to say abominations, but who would want to refer to Auron that way)? I think it was happier to see him sent off to where he belonged, than the alternative. Just IMO. As for the Ronso, I remember what Seymour said, but didn’t I see some at the foot of Mt. Gagazet when I went back to get the Blossom Crown, and also in one of the temples? \*\* [spoiler]There did seem to be survivors, but most of them would have to have been killed for Seymore to get as far as he did. They are a warrior race, consider themselves the defenders of the sacred mountain, etc. Sure, saying Khimari was the last of his kind was hyperbole, but you have to wonder if they’ve got enough of a gene pool left to survive more than another generation or two. I guess that depends mostly on how many children there were. As to Auron - aside from him all the Unsent WERE abominations - monsters, or psychos like Seymore and wassisname the Meister.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![RobuSensei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@RobuSensei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobuSensei)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/29 "2003-09-14T03:36:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tengu \* > \*\*There did seem to be survivors, but most of them would have to have been killed for Seymore to get as far as he did. They are a warrior race, consider themselves the defenders of the sacred mountain, etc. Sure, saying Khimari was the last of his kind was hyperbole, but you have to wonder if they’ve got enough of a gene pool left to survive more than another generation or two. I guess that depends mostly on how many children there were. \*\* Here’s an interesting bit of dialogue from the _Another Story_ clip:[spoiler] **Wakka:** So Kimahri’s still at Mt Gagazet? **Rikku:** You betcha! He’s teaching the Ronso children tons of stuff–he’s really quite the teacher![/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Protesilaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Protesilaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Protesilaus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/30 "2003-09-14T04:56:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \* > \*\*As for the Ronso, I remember what Seymour said, but didn’t I see some at the foot of Mt. Gagazet when I went back to get the Blossom Crown, and also in one of the temples? \*\* The merchant Ronso is definitely still there, and some other ones might be also. I can’t remember if there were any in temples, but the blitzball Ronsos in Luca all survived. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tengu \* > \*\*As to Auron - aside from him all the Unsent WERE abominations - monsters, or psychos like Seymore and wassisname the Meister. \*\* Belgemine the summoner (the one who trains Yuna) was also an Unsent. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/31 "2003-09-14T05:42:19Z")
Oh! Right. I’d forgotten that one. Guess Auron’s not the only one, then. ---
**Author:** ![RobuSensei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@RobuSensei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobuSensei)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/32 "2003-09-14T15:56:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \* > \*\*No, I’m more looking forward to the GIGANTIC SLUT-FEST it appears to be, based on the gaming mag my roomie showed me the other night. > Since when does Yuna dress like Britney Spears? Of course, we all knew Rikku was going to end up as a good-time girl, so no surprise _there_… > > Tee hee hee \*\* Just wait until you see the FURRY outfits… 😃 _…and when they did the Charlie’s Angels pose at the beginning of the game, that’s when I knew…this game be wack_ ---
**Author:** ![Magickly\_Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magickly\_Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magickly_Delicious)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/33 "2003-09-14T17:18:58Z")
Bwahaha! I have Lulu’s ultimate weapon, the Onion Knight. Yes, friends, I am so pathetic that I spent major amounts of time dodging lighting for it. I started a new game and I’m going through for the second time (finished it for the first time in May). Waaait a minute, guys. If you watched it through to the end of the credits, you see Tidus waking up and swimming away. I don’t think he ceased to exist. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/34 "2003-09-14T19:55:24Z")
The lightning is nothing. It took, IIRC, around half an hour. Getting and powering up the Caladbolg was the hardest for me–that took hours. For the record, I _never_ want to see another chocobo race. Of course, I won’t let the inevitable races stop me from playing every new FF to come down the pike… The best thing about the legendary weapons is that they allow aeons to break the damage limit. It’s fun to do 99,999 damage with Valefor. I kept AP-gathering weapons (Overdrive-\>AP, Triple Overdrive, Triple AP) on most of the time, except when I actually needed to use my overdrives. You can power through the grid in a hurry that way. ---
**Author:** ![RobuSensei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@RobuSensei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobuSensei)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/35 "2003-09-15T00:42:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Magickly Delicious \* > \*\*Waaait a minute, guys. If you watched it through to the end of the credits, you see Tidus waking up and swimming away. I don’t think he ceased to exist. \*\* Yes, and that’s the setup that makes FFX-2 possible. Yuna and co. believe that he has disappeared forever, and the discovery of evidence that he has returned somehow sets them off on their quest. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/36 "2003-09-15T02:16:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Magickly Delicious \* > \*\*Bwahaha! I have Lulu’s ultimate weapon, the Onion Knight. Yes, friends, I am so pathetic that I spent major amounts of time dodging lighting for it. \*\* Justy out of curiosity, why did you do it that way? I got it the easy way (not that it was worth it, I never got all of the LWs anyway. Maybe next time). ---
**Author:** ![RobuSensei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@RobuSensei](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobuSensei)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/37 "2003-09-15T02:23:11Z")
A question for everyone: Who did you get to throw the ball for Tida’s Blitz Ace overdrive? (I think that was the name…) For me, it was Lulu. I spent a while trying to change this, even having Tidus kill her repeatedly in battle, but to no avail. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/38 "2003-09-15T02:28:01Z")
It was always Lulu in my game, too, **Robu**. I never tried to change it–it didn’t occur to me. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/39 "2003-09-15T12:13:36Z")
About the ending [spoiler]You are both wrong. Tidus _was_ a Fayth - everyone in Zanarkand was. You saw him in the little sphere on the wall of Zanarkand Fayths. He existed and he exists. He’s just mostly dead, now, hence seeing Braska, Jecht, and Auron. He probably isn’t totally dead, since he had a body and it wasn’t killed, which may be the “out” they use in FFX-2. Tidus, however inadvertantly, was the culmination and product of their lives and life’s work. I have no idea how Auron managed to hold himself together while dead. Its a mystery, but perhaps its fate. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-finished-final-fantasy-x/201320/40 "2003-09-15T12:19:06Z")
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