# Finally. Katie Holmes has given birth **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 18, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227 "2006-04-18T23:48:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/81 "2006-04-20T16:32:51Z")
> [@Mr. Moto](#): > > Take the C and the E off of Cruise, rearrange the rest, and see what you get. > > That’s normal, all right. Ah. Interesting. I wonder if her middle name is Ce or Ec? I gues sit could have been worse, they could have gone with Cursie. The more I hear Cruise referred to as a first time father or it specifically pointed out that the other kids were adopted the angrier I get. It shouldn’t matter, they are his kids, too! This is his 3rd kid. So how long do you think before she gets knocked up again? Because I think the deal was that she was supposed to provide him with a male heir. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/82 "2006-04-20T16:50:37Z")
Woo hoo! They can resume sexual relations…since apparently Scientologist expectant moms abstain. And that will change things how?? > [@Wile E](#): > > I seem to have missed the references to Tom eating the placenta, was this in some other article or interview? > > If Katie were smart she would have made sure that the kid’s last name was listed as Holmes on the birth certificate. If that jerk wants a baby, make sure you get the wedding first. He made a joke about it in GQ (no, the magazine) which was then picked up and reported as serious. The gossip mill also says that Tom wants Katie to sign away full custody in case they ever break up. :eek: But of course the same mags quote him as saying he’ll never let this woman go. :eek: :eek: Speaking of placenta, how about the rumor that Nicole Kidman kept part of hers from her miscarriage, to prove that it was Tom’s baby. (I just assumed he divorced her when she got pregnant as he knew it couldn’t be his.) ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/83 "2006-04-20T16:52:03Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > The more I hear Cruise referred to as a first time father or it specifically pointed out that the other kids were adopted the angrier I get. It shouldn’t matter, they are his kids, too! This is his 3rd kid. Or his fourth, if you count the miscarried baby. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/84 "2006-04-20T17:03:46Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > Cruise has been dogged by rumours of being so far back in the closet he can see Narnia since… well, forever. When he amd Mimi Rogers divorced, I remember hearing rumors that part of the reason was that he couldn’t perform his husbandly duties. If this was due to him being gay or otherwise, take your pick. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/85 "2006-04-20T17:24:16Z")
I read an interview with Nicole Kidman where she says that Tom bugged her phone when they were in the divorce process. She said she’d answer the phone and say “Hello Tom, are you listening?” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/86 "2006-04-20T18:22:16Z")
Keep in mind this is just some random message board-but someone was speculating Tom has a genetic disorder that prevents any of his offspring from coming to term: [It would explain a LOT, if this were true.](http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/45654#1066483) ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/87 "2006-04-20T19:06:15Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > Do you people have no humanity? This man and woman have a child together. Is there no decency? He tries to find creed, and you stone him and his innocents. Creed sucks as well. Geeze, now I’m imagining Scientologist Rock. Preferably by taking love songs and replacing “babe” with “L. Ron.” ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/88 "2006-04-20T19:22:32Z")
> [@JPen](#): > > Suri, eh? > > Well, thats at least sort of normal. I was expecting something along the lines of Elroni or something. Well, the rumor on some gossip websites (and TV shows) is that the child’s full name is: Suri L. Ronette Holmes-Cruise ( or Cruise-Holmes, whichever). Who knows it that’s true, but I wouldn’t doubt it. Oh, another gossip website pointed out an interesting point: Suri sounds a lot like “Surrey,” the region of the UK where L Ron’s old house is (also the UK headquarters for the Church). Coincidence? Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/89 "2006-04-20T19:38:22Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > Do you people have no humanity? This man and woman have a child together. Is there no decency? If we were talking about almost anybody else, you might have a point. But we’re talking about a crazy public nuisance who lacks the characteristics you’ve mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/90 "2006-04-20T21:52:02Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Oh, another gossip website pointed out an interesting point: Suri sounds a lot like “Surrey,” the region of the UK where L Ron’s old house is (also the UK headquarters for the Church). Coincidence? Who knows. I don’t know… why not just name her Surrey if that was true? It’s not as if they’re keeping quiet about being Scientologists. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/91 "2006-04-20T22:05:15Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > Why is it in question? Just that he’s made such a fracken huge deal about Katie being pregnet and then going completely over the top when accused of being gay, many people suspect he’s gay. And didn’t his marriage to Kidman get anulled(Which can happen if no sex occured)? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/92 "2006-04-20T22:29:12Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > And didn’t his marriage to Kidman get anulled(Which can happen if no sex occured)? Yes, it was anulled, on her part, because she wanted to get married in the Catholic church to her fiance, Keith Urban. But NOT because it wasn’t consumated, but supposedly because of his Scientology crap. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/93 "2006-04-20T22:57:18Z")
> [@cerberus](#): > > You’d name a girl Xena. Everyone knows that. Besides, Xenu is the bad guy. A Christian would never name thier kid Satan, or Beelzebub. However the feminine forms “Satana” has a certain appeal. And no one can forget the popularity of “Beelzebuba” in the South. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_O_Malley_s_Cow)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/94 "2006-04-20T23:45:56Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > When he amd Mimi Rogers divorced, I remember hearing rumors that part of the reason was that he couldn’t perform his husbandly duties. If this was due to him being gay or otherwise, take your pick. I read an article about a week ago that said that sex with Katie was fantastic. I can’t imagine having that shared with the press. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_Johnson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Mrs\_Johnson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_Johnson)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/95 "2006-04-20T23:46:00Z")
I’ve always thought they were both a bit odd looking. I’m guessing the kid’s gonna look goofy at 15. And I really shouldn’t have googled “placenta” (images). \*THAT \*comes out of a woman’s body? One more reason to add to the list of why I’m not having children. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_O_Malley_s_Cow)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/96 "2006-04-21T18:43:44Z")
Here is an interesting website I happened upon this morning: > **[TomCruiseIsNuts.com domain is for sale | Buy with Epik.com](https://tomcruiseisnuts.com)** > > TomCruiseIsNuts.com - Make an Offer if you want to buy this domain. Your purchase is secured by Epik. From this article I found on religionnewsblog originally appearing in the Witchita Eagle (also this morning): > **[Web entrepreneur skewers Tom Cruise](https://www.religionnewsblog.com/14396/Web-entrepreneur-skewers-Tom-Cruise)** > > The odd thing is, D.J. LaChapelle is one of the good guys. His Internet consulting company creates Web sites for nonprofit foundations that focus on ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/97 "2006-04-24T22:25:26Z")
[That beautiful moment](http://www.hnldesign.nl/b3ta/beta95.gif), captured on film. ---
**Author:** ![Amaranta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Amaranta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amaranta)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227/98 "2006-04-24T22:52:51Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Oh, another gossip website pointed out an interesting point: Suri sounds a lot like “Surrey,” the region of the UK where L Ron’s old house is (also the UK headquarters for the Church). Coincidence? Who knows. Surrey is also a rather scuzzy area of Vancouver. Coincidence??!?!?! Yeah, probably. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-katie-holmes-has-given-birth/353227.md?page=4)