# Finally! Low-Carb/Atkins gets a little respect! About damn time! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 19, 2002, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488 "2002-11-19T07:39:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Daikona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Daikona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daikona)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488/321 "2003-03-07T20:28:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*\*Elucidator’s son here. > > I saw this thread getting to page seven, and now I feel like I just gotta weigh in. First off, it should be noted that I am currently weighing in at a full one-hundred pounds less than two years ago (I probably could have lost it in half the time, if I hadn’t taken so many breaks), all thanks to Protein Power, which is very similar to Atkins. \*\* And I lost 90 pounds in a year and a half, on a fairly low protein, low fat diet, which had a lot of carbs in it. Anecdotes mean _nothing_. ---
**Author:** ![Eddie\_the\_Dane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5a626/32.png) [@Eddie\_the\_Dane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_the_Dane)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2003, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488/322 "2003-03-07T20:47:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DanielWithrow \* > \*\*Name me a specific study, and I’ll try to take a look at it, to see if the scientists conducting the study were so foolish that they didn’t control for simple carbohydrates. But you need to raise this issue in a specific experiment, not get me to do your legwork for you based on a vague apprehension. > > Daniel \*\* Daniel, they’re YOUR studies - why don’t you cite me some and I’ll look into it - but think about this - in the years those studies were conducted (predominantly 70’s and 80’s I believe?), aside from Atkins no one was talking seriously about carbohydrates being a health concern and I think it’s highly unlikely that any of those studies you cite would have used an Atkins-type diet in one of its study groups - rather, I’d imagine they just chose subjects with diets high in fat FROM ANY SOURCE without regard for carbohydrate consumption. In any case, give me some cites and I’ll do YOUR legwork for you. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488/323 "2003-03-07T21:16:35Z")
Sorry, Dane, that’s not how it works. If you’re comfortable making an unfounded assumption about some nonspecific study, then booyah for you. But I’m not going to help you make that assumption, nor am I going to take it seriously, unless you can at the very least tell me which study you’re making the unfounded assumption about. If you’re fine not having me take you seriously, then you need do nothing more. But if you want to have a debate about this unfounded assumption of yours, you need to tell us which study you’re making the assumption about. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Eddie\_the\_Dane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5a626/32.png) [@Eddie\_the\_Dane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_the_Dane)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488/324 "2003-03-07T21:29:49Z")
Daniel, you cited studies - why won’t you cite them now? Tell me which studies you think prove that a high fat diet is unhealthy and I’ll look into the composition of the subjects’ diet. Just how is that such a burden to you? And for the record, I care not in the least whether you take me seriously or not. I just think that your POV on this is wrong and I want to prove it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488/325 "2003-03-07T21:35:00Z")
Fine. Take a look at the studies I previously cited; tell me which ones you think are flawed. If you want to prove my POV is wrong, by all means do so. Unsubstantiated vague allegations aren’t the way to do it. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Eddie\_the\_Dane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5a626/32.png) [@Eddie\_the\_Dane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eddie_the_Dane)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488/326 "2003-03-08T02:14:37Z")
Thanks for making me go back through what - 5 pages of this thread? What a guy you are! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488/327 "2003-03-10T16:09:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eddie the Dane \* > \*\*Thanks for making me go back through what - 5 pages of this thread? What a guy you are! \*\* Indeed. What, you think I’ve got all my cites memorized? Either you or I am going to have to go through 5 pages of this thread to find them; since you’re the one with the (currently unsubstantiated) argument to make, I’ll let you do the honors. Daniel [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-low-carb-atkins-gets-a-little-respect-about-damn-time/137488.md?page=16)