# Finally, the Wife Can Join the Nazi Party of Germany **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 4, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601 "2015-06-04T03:06:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/21 "2015-06-04T20:02:38Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > …don’t answer the question “do you have anything to declare ?” with “only a 14 year old prostitute in a suitcase with her ass full of cocaine”. In something not quite, but almost entirely unlike the holy words of AC/DC, say that and you’re on the highway to a rather rough cavity search. Where, then, _should_ one put the cocaine? The world is becoming soooo complicated. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/22 "2015-06-04T20:11:10Z")
> [@robert\_columbia](#): > > Does the original Nazi Party (NSDAP) even exist anymore? I know that the old East German Communist Party survives as _Die Linke_, but I was under the impression that Hitler’s party was simply shut down with no specific successor organization specified, and that the “Neo-Nazi” parties were all independently founded. Am I wrong? The party was made illegal after the war. I’d guess there were other Nazi groups who didn’t use the word, and a number of them would have “genuine” Nazis in them, but I never heard that there was some large single organization which swept them all in. ---
**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/23 "2015-06-04T20:14:06Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > I never understood questions like that. Do they really think a terrorist, or a former Nazi would answer yes? A prohibition on being a Nazi would violate the spirit and probably the letter of the First Amendment, but they can prohibit lying on paperwork, since it’s perjury. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/24 "2015-06-04T20:16:22Z")
Al Franken once wrote that the form used to ask if you had been a member of the Nazi Party after 1945. Franken wrote that say what you will about that person’s politics, anyone who joined the Nazi Party after 1945 was no fair weather friend. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/25 "2015-06-04T20:47:50Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Al Franken once wrote that the form used to ask if you had been a member of the Nazi Party after 1945. Franken wrote that say what you will about that person’s politics, anyone who joined the Nazi Party after 1945 was no fair weather friend. I feel the same way about Bulls fans that became fans after Jordan retired ;)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/26 "2015-06-04T20:55:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Al Franken once wrote that the form used to ask if you had been a member of the Nazi Party after 1945. Franken wrote that say what you will about that person’s politics, anyone who joined the Nazi Party after 1945 was no fair weather friend. And say what you want about the tenets, at least it’s an ethos. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/27 "2015-06-04T21:21:14Z")
Just don’t join the Illinois Nazis. I hate those guys. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/28 "2015-06-04T21:27:36Z")
Is it OK if I join the Grammar Nazis? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/29 "2015-06-05T00:37:34Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > I never understood questions like that. Do they really think a terrorist, or a former Nazi would answer yes? Well, they _do_ say on the form that a “Yes” answer won’t necessarily mean you’re refused a visa. I’d like to see the explanations that ensue in the interview. “Yes, I _did_ recruit child soldiers, but ya see, it was like this …” ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/30 "2015-06-05T00:58:18Z")
> [@Valgard](#): > > Probably not but it means if the authorities later discover that you lied about it on the application it’s much easier for them to boot you out. IIRC it’s still case that Germans born before 1928 have to apply for a visa in advance to visit Israel, even as a tourist; Germans born after that have the same visa-free access everyone else from the EEA does. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/31 "2015-06-05T05:04:38Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Sexist Nazis … not letting Thai women join … WTF is wrong with them? [Especially](http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/highres_00000402939176.jpg) [when](http://66728c23231e9ad29bda-499d692b8818ca0498d1f1d042a47200.r48.cf2.rackcdn.com/uploads/Sacred-Heart-Hitler.jpg) [they](https://weeklyworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/nazi_girld.jpg) [do](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JJ7L2dL8gPI/UAvrJTnuUJI/AAAAAAAAA_w/V46rvcGv5xU/s1600/272055074_bc161f9ada.jpg) [it](http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/5/12/1305214974951/Chinese-youths-dressed-up-007.jpg) [so](http://www.cammyfan.com/weekly-rant/nazi-cos3.jpg) [well](https://weeklyworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/nazi_girlc.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/32 "2015-06-05T05:16:45Z")
The Thais have a b[it of a Nazi fetish.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWNbekZVyKk) ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/33 "2015-06-05T06:27:05Z")
Is it possible that we’re going to make it through this thread without Godwin’s Law being invoked? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/34 "2015-06-05T07:33:10Z")
Once, I was given the forms to apply for security clearance needed to work on programming for weapons systems. One of the questions asked “List all organizations you have belonged to since age 14 (excluding political organizations)”. I asked “So I have to list Boy Scouts Troop#48, but I wouldn’t have to list the Communist Party USA, because that’s a political group?” The reply was “If you were a member of the Communist Party USA, we’d already know that.” ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/35 "2015-06-05T09:18:32Z")
[SF86](http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/sf86.pdf) is the form the government currently uses to collect information for background checks for security clearances. Two of the yes/no questions, verbatim: > [@](#): > > A) Have you ever been an officer or a member or made a contribution to an organization dedicated to the violent overthrow of the United States Government and which engages in illegal activities to that end, knowing that the organization engages in such activities with the specific intent to further such activities? > > B) Have you ever knowingly engaged in any acts or activities designed to overthrow the United States Government by force? I do wonder what an investigator would do if they ever got a form with a positive response… ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/36 "2015-06-05T18:32:14Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > Is it OK if I join the Grammar Nazis? Or the female senior citizen outlaw motor cycle club, the Gramma Nazis ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/37 "2015-06-05T18:40:16Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > I do wonder what an investigator would do if they ever got a form with a positive response… My mother checked “yes” on an INS question about whether she’d ever been a member of the communist party or any other totalitarian party, or words to that effect (English isn’t her first language, she doesn’t follow politics, and didn’t know what the word totalitarian meant.) As far as we can tell, nothing happened. 😃 Her citizenship application was approved. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/38 "2015-06-05T19:17:09Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > Or the female senior citizen outlaw motor cycle club, the Gramma Nazis Or their sister club, [Hell’s Grannies.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIHF4rVTK4E) ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/39 "2015-06-05T20:33:34Z")
Does anyone remember when a standard question by airport security was “Has anyone offered to watch or repack your luggage for you?” Eventually, the TSA realized that nobody with even the smallest shred of intelligence is going to let some random stranger watch their bags, and the question disappeared. At the time the question was dropped, I recell reading a newspaper article which claimed that, as far as anybody knew, nobody had ever answered “Yes” to that question. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601/40 "2015-06-05T20:42:59Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Does anyone remember when a standard question by airport security was “Has anyone offered to watch or repack your luggage for you?” Eventually, the TSA realized that nobody with even the smallest shred of intelligence is going to let some random stranger watch their bags, and the question disappeared. > > At the time the question was dropped, I recell reading a newspaper article which claimed that, as far as anybody knew, nobody had ever answered “Yes” to that question. Again, the idea behind that question was to pin the traveller down, not to get a “yes”. If they say “no” - as they all do - they can’t later claim “someone else musta put it there - my asshole b-in-law packed that bag” when Border Security finds a coupla grams of coke hidden in the person’s luggage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finally-the-wife-can-join-the-nazi-party-of-germany/721601.md?page=3)