# Find me a game!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 5, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864 "2014-08-05T14:12:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/21 "2014-08-05T19:22:48Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I actually bought a used copy which turned out to be scratched and forgot to return/exchange it. So I am loath to pay for the same game again.

Rotten luck. I forgot what the wii version of Rayman is called but that might be similar in style.

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**Author:** ![notquitekarpov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@notquitekarpov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notquitekarpov)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/22 "2014-08-06T08:41:29Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> In fairness, I didn’t specify _video_ games. And I am never upset about being told to have beer and snacks.

Thank you, Sir.

As a gamer for forty years now, it irritates me hugely that my hobby is now equated in the general population with computer gaming.

So, whilst stiring, I was certainly not “threadshitting” - just opening eyes up to the wider range of gaming possibilities that gets folk away from their screens and interacting face-to-face with real people.

If you have only played computer games I urge you to give the traditional hobby another look - so called “German” game designs have revolutionized the over-the-table hobby in the last twenty years or so. Some probably as a reaction to the rise of computer gaming.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/23 "2014-08-06T12:12:28Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I’m sold. Do I need the DLC pack from Steam? Or is the standalone game plenty? It’s quite expensive for a crowdfunded game.

Skip the DLCs. And it’s close to AAA-game price because it is huge.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I just noticed it’s a sequel. Should I try the original first?

This one actually happens before the others, so it’s a good place to start. It also plays completely differently than the previous ones. I did like some of the previous games in the series but not all of them and even the ones I liked were merely good, not awesome. D:OS on the other hand is brilliant if you like the genre.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/24 "2014-08-06T12:29:44Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I finished the bar exam last week.

Congratulations, and best of luck on the results!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/25 "2014-08-06T13:36:59Z")

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> [@notquitekarpov](#):
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> If you have only played computer games I urge you to give the traditional hobby another look - so called “German” game designs have revolutionized the over-the-table hobby in the last twenty years or so. Some probably as a reaction to the rise of computer gaming.

What _are_ German board game designs?

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**Author:** ![notquitekarpov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@notquitekarpov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notquitekarpov)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/26 "2014-08-06T13:48:17Z")

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This is probably the most famous one “Settlers of Catan” designed by Klaus Teuberhttp. [http://www.catan.com/](http://www.catan.com/)

Carcassonne is also a classic design by Klaus-Jürgen Wrede, although I prefer the stand alone design Carcassonne: The City

> **[Carcassonne (board game)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcassonne_%28board_game%29)**
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> Carcassonne (/ˌkɑːrkəˈsɒn/) is a tile-based German-style board game for two to five players, designed by Klaus-Jürgen Wrede and published in 2000 by Hans im Glück in German and by Rio Grande Games (until 2012) and Z-Man Games (currently) in English. It received the Spiel des Jahres and the Deutscher Spiele Preis awards in 2001. 
> It is named after the medieval fortified town of Carcassonne in southern France, famed for its city walls. The game has spawned many expansions and spin-offs, and seve...

> **[Carcassonne: The City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcassonne:_The_City)**
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> Carcassonne: The City is a German board game for two to four players. As a member of the Carcassonne family of games, it is created by Klaus-Jürgen Wrede and distributed by Hans im Glück in German and Rio Grande Games in English. Like other Carcassonne games, the objective of the game is to score points based on placement of the tiles. However, The City also adds city walls and towers, which can inhibit the growth of the playing field in a certain direction. The City is packaged in a "deluxe" ...

Reiner Knizia is another famous game designer, his masterpiece is generally considered to be Tigris and Euphrates, although Modern Art and Lost Cities are also still very popular.

> **[Tigris and Euphrates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigris_and_Euphrates)**
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> Tigris and Euphrates (German: Euphrat und Tigris) is a tabletop eurogame designed by Reiner Knizia and first published in 1997 by Hans im Glück. Before its publication, it was highly anticipated by German gamers hearing rumors of a "gamer's game" designed by Knizia. Tigris and Euphrates won first prize in the 1998 Deutscher Spielepreis. A card game version was released in 2005.
> The game is set as a clash between neighboring dynasties at the dawn of civilization and is named after the rivers ...

For more about the style as a whole see [Eurogame - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-style_board_game). The key features are that they are not wargames and do not feature player elimination.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/27 "2014-08-06T14:03:50Z")

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There’s some interesting stuff in the boardgame space, but honestly, for me it doesn’t really command long term attention; If I’m going to go to all the trouble of scheduling people to get together for a big block of time, I’d rather play a tabletop RPG. 😛

I guess at the end of the day, the biggest reason you might NOT be into boardgames is the scheduling factor - you need, generally, between 3 and 6 people. More and you have to play multiple games, so this can be messy at large gatherings, and less and you can’t really play most games as intended. Lots of people are busy, and have a hard time making this happen.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/28 "2014-08-06T15:12:00Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What _are_ German board game designs?

Ticket to Ride, Alhambra, 7 Wonders, Dominion, and Small World are the sorts of games people are thinking about when they talk about german or euro-style board games. They rarely involve dice and are mostly concerned with gathering resources or points. With the exception of Small World, none of them involve direct player on player combat and there are no player eliminations.

As to Airk’s point about persons, it’s expensive to do all at once but Pandemic and its two expansions makes the game possible for, I think, 1-7 players which is pretty much as many people as you’d want in one board game. I happen to like it because it’s co-operative and there’s less intra-group friction.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/find-me-a-game/694864/29 "2014-08-06T15:25:54Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What _are_ German board game designs?

Germany has a huge board gaming community. The way that Americans go to the movies (you don’t ask an American if they go to movies; you ask them what movies they like because you assume they go), Germans play games (you would ask what games do they like rather than whether they play).

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