# Finding Nemo turning kids on to lesbianism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599 "2003-05-30T18:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/41 "2003-05-31T00:49:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jeevmon \* > \*\*So, apparently Disney and Pixar are catching some flak for casting Ellen DeGeneres in a voice role in the new film “Finding Nemo.” > \*\* I’m confused over how anyone could think Ellen DeGeneres could turn anybody on to anything. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/42 "2003-05-31T00:58:52Z")
Oh man…that Spiderman thing was classic! BWAHAHAHAH!!! I wonder if these folks read the King James Bible-and if so, if they realize they’re reading a book authored by a bisexual! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/43 "2003-05-31T01:03:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chimera \* > \*\*[sarcasm] > > Hey, how many **single men** worked on this film? Because as I was angrily told by a -former- friend, single men know **nothing** about children. Thus, one can conclude that single men should not be allowed to work on **family** films! > > [/sarcasm] \*\* [sarcasm continues] And married women shouldn’t work on the film, either, because married women belong at home, taking care of the house and the children and baking bread. Obviously Jews shouldn’t work on the film, because we **know** they don’t have good Christian values! So, all you heterosexual Christian males better learn to work on movies damned quick, else there won’t be anything left fit to take our kids to!![/sarcasm continues] Will be taking my girls, including my 3 year old to see it Wednesday. Or, at least I was, until this link pointed out the dangers involved!:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/44 "2003-05-31T01:46:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\* > I wonder if these folks read the King James Bible-and if so, if they realize they’re reading a book authored by a bisexual! > > 😃 \*\* Can I be a bit nitpicky here? James I(James VI of Scotland) did not “author” the translation of the Bible that carries his name. As I’m sure you know **Guin** , teams of scholars did the _translating._ They weren’t the authors either. Jimmy Stuart just lent his name and imprimatur to the whole endeavor!😛 ---
**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/45 "2003-05-31T01:59:29Z")
Oh goodness me! I am about to leave this very minute and take my darling, impressionable **Hawklette** and her very best girlfriend to see this movie!! Good thing I found out before I made this terrible mistake!!! Perhaps it is already too late!!! I’ll let ya know if we like it. 😃 (C’mon, **Guin** , sponsored by, not authored by. You know that.) ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/46 "2003-05-31T02:13:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\*Obviously, he does not intend it to be taken at face value. > > Hence, although he intends to elicit a chuckle with his ‘clever’ phraseology, he has inadvertantly uttered a truism. \*\* A technique he apparently likes, judging from the next full paragraph down: > [@](#): > > …we’re once again reminded just how far removed most of us are from the cultural epicenter of America. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/47 "2003-05-31T02:46:48Z")
Actually, I didn’t know that. Thank you for correcting me. Some of the reviews though, by individuals are pretty good. Like the ones for _Boys Don’t Cry_-most of them said it was a good, yet very sad and tragic film. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/48 "2003-05-31T02:55:09Z")
Because you know, the Christian Right is all about treating homosexuals fairly - you know, love the sinner, hate the sin, right? Oh, except we can’t give them jobs (even if they’re famous and funny and right for the role we give them), because then they’re just promoting their lifestyle. Yeah, that’s fair. No jobs, but, you know, they just _love_ them anyway, right? And now, I’m going to go throw up. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/49 "2003-05-31T03:05:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > \*\*My God! Don’t you know about Ian McKellan? You’re playing with fire, missy, playing with fire! > > 😃 \*\* Gandalf the gay? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/50 "2003-05-31T03:59:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > \*\*Gandalf the gay? \*\* Cue mental image of a bouncing, flamingly gay Gandalf… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/51 "2003-05-31T04:06:30Z")
_That’s_ why they gave him that particular ring, then… The complexities of that story keep confounding me. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/52 "2003-05-31T04:16:56Z")
“Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they’re as subtle as Kenneth Anger.” Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/53 "2003-05-31T04:37:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chimera \* > \*\*Cue mental image of a bouncing, flamingly gay Gandalf… > 😃 \*\* [Funny you should mention it…](http://www.mckellen.com/writings/000115.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/54 "2003-05-31T05:28:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chimera \* > \*\*Cue mental image of a bouncing, flamingly gay Gandalf… > 😃 \*\* Then he would be Gandalf the FAB-U-LOUUUS! Though did you notice the tension between him and Saruman? And that both “men” carry “long wooden poles” and “wave them around to work their ‘power’”? Hmm? ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/55 "2003-05-31T05:51:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\*Huh? How is that a non sequitur? > > It’s a further example of editorial decisions made by the administrators of _Crosswalk_ reflecting a totally insane, bereft-of-logic point of view. > \*\* Which has absolutely _nothing_ to do with the point at hand. Unless you think the proportions of taxes paid by various demographic groups is somehow related to sexual orientation of actors? I didn’t think so. That the website happens to host an article about taxation that contains what you or others believe to be severely weak arguments doesn’t reflect _at all_ on the strength of an argument presented by another author that happens to appear on the same website. That makes it a non sequitur. The weaknesses in the argument at hand, which I and others have pointed out, are to be evaluated independant of their source. To be discussed, an argument must be divorced from it’s author. And it certainly should not carry the burden of being attacked because other arguments made by people who share the same publisher are deemed to be weak. That’s a crappy argument, and it deserves the full force of my derision. Because this is the Pit and not GD, such a total non sequitur is allowable and occasionally fun, but don’t pretend it’s anything more than that. ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/56 "2003-05-31T06:02:08Z")
I’m disappointed in all of you. I opened this thread hoping to find a clever pun on “queer fish,” and it’s not here. Maybe you have better taste than me. Shame on you. Perhaps this movie will give us a new term, Nemosexual: someone whose orientation is set by cartoon characters. (Of course I sort of had the hots for Jessica Rabbit, but never mind.) But **anyway,** what I really wanted to share is the type of fish that Ellen DeGeneres provides the voice for in this film. It’s a **blue tang.** (heh heh. He said “blue tang.”) This had to result from some sort of misunderstanding. Someone thought the studio executives said, “What this movie really needs is a little lesbian blue tang.” ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/57 "2003-05-31T07:30:46Z")
> [@](#): > > **RexDart:** Which has absolutely nothing to do with the point at hand. Unless you think the proportions of taxes paid by various demographic groups is somehow related to sexual orientation of actors? Are you being deliberately obtuse, **RexDart**? Both articles are clearly arguing from an anti-gay position. Do you think that the following’s inclusion as a _coda_ to the article on the “[Burden of Marriage](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1202682.html)” is totally insignificant, too? > [@](#): > > “Like the vast majority of Texans,” Gov. Perry said at the signing ceremony, “ **I believe that marriage represents a sacred union between a man and a woman**. With passage of the Defense of Marriage Act, Texas now joins more than 30 states in reinforcing that basic belief.” > The Texas law prevents the Lone Star State from legally recognizing same-sex unions that might be legal in other states, such as Vermont’s court-imposed “civil unions” scheme. > The federal courts should take notice. In state after state, the American people are making it unmistakably clear through their elected representatives, as they did in Texas, or at the ballot box as they did in Nevada last November, that **they want to preserve marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman**. Why ever would we imagine that there is a common theme running through both articles? Of course, you’re right. Suggesting that people should be discriminated against by employers based on their sexual orientation is completely different from suggesting that people should be discriminated against by government based on their sexual orientation. What was I thinking? Damn, that “sarcasm” business is really catching. Almost as bad as that homosexuality that’s been going around. Nope, no [agenda at Crosswalks.com](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1156877.html): > [@](#): > > Peter LaBarbera, a senior policy analyst with the Culture and Family Institute, an affiliate of Concerned Women for America, warned that people who run for office as homosexuals usually promote a homosexual agenda if elected. > “Very few people who are openly homosexual in office, especially if they’ve been aligned with these gay groups, behave like it’s a non-issue,” LaBarbera said. [Well, maybe a little one:](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1166026.html) > [@](#): > > “About a quarter of the public thinks that more than 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian,” the study said. > Family groups said the poll results reflected more the effects of propaganda by homosexual activists and their allies than the facts. > The most reliable sociological studies available show that three to four percent of the population is involved in homosexuality, said Michael Johnston, director of Kerusso Ministries and a former homosexual. > “But you certainly wouldn’t know that by listening to the media or listening to homosexual propaganda,” he said. [insert something ironic here](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1133084.html) > [@](#): > > Celibacy is not the problem. The problem in the Catholic Church is a homosexual problem. In a recent article in the National Review, Rod Dreher writes that the pedophilia scandal “cannot be understood and honestly dealt with” without taking the homosexuality of the accused priests into account. > As Dreher writes, “What we’re seeing is gay men who cannot or will not keep their pants up around teenage boys. Not teenage girls. Teenage boys.” Even the pro-homosexual book, The Gay Report, noted that 73 percent of gay men have had sex with teenage boys. [Whatya mean, ‘insert something ironic?’](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1196590.html) > [@](#): > > The Associated Press reported that Santorum, referencing the upcoming Supreme Court ruling on the legality of Texas’ sodomy law in Lawrence v. Texas, said: “If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.” > Robert Knight, director of CWA’s Culture Family Institute, said: “Sen. Santorum is exactly right. If courts can strike down laws against sodomy, then there is little reason to believe that laws against bigamy, prostitution and incest will stand.” [Was that a pass!?](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1143484.html) > [@](#): > > Some things have changed for the better in the Bush Administration. Others remain the same. Like the celebration of Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgender Awareness Month. […] It’s one thing to call for compassion for such troubled people. It is quite another for government to promote these aberrations as normal and equal to heterosexuals. [You’re way outta line, mister!](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1141132.html) > [@](#): > > There’s more news from the education front! A California public school district is allowing homosexual school employees to “come out” in front of school children without first obtaining parental permission. [Why, I oughtta…](http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1173631.html) > [@](#): > > Prosecutors in Chicago say there’s no evidence at this time to charge a homosexual teenager with a hate crime in the stabbing and strangulation death of a woman with whom police say he argued over his lifestyle. […] “If a gay man had been murdered for trying to convince someone to be gay, it would be a national news story and be deemed a hate crime,” said Peter LaBarbera, a policy analyst with the Culture and Family Institute of Concerned Women for America, a conservative Washington, D.C., think tank. > “This case tragically displays the intense hatred for Christianity that exists among some in the homosexual community,” said LaBarbera. I could go on, but somehow, it’s just a little bit too depressing. On a lighter note, **Satisfying Andy Licious** , I think it’s really funny that they made Ellen’s character into a Blue Tang-- it really demonstrates how much of a commitee-project the script was. Let’s see, we’ve got a fish with no short-term memory, named _Dory_. Hmmmm… What kind of fish do you think she was when she was first conceived? > [@](#): > > They say goldfish have no memory > I guess their lives are much like mine > And the little plastic castle > Is a surprise every time > And it’s hard to say if they’re happy > But they don’t seem much to mind > _–Ani DiFranco_ (Ani seems like an appropriate cite for the goldfish-have-no-memory urban legend in the context of this thread…) Sounds to me like Dory was a Poisson _d’Or_ before a none-too-bright art department decided she needed to look more exotic. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/58 "2003-05-31T07:46:50Z")
> [@](#): > > people who run for office as homosexuals… Yyyyyah. “Yes, my name is Iam Punha, and I’m running for office as a homosexual. If elected, I plan to go bi, and if relected I may become polyamorous.” These guys really need to work on their writing abilities. If they’re going to write, they ought to have some. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/59 "2003-05-31T07:47:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satisfying Andy Licious \* > **I’m disappointed in all of you. I opened this thread hoping to find a clever pun on "queer fish,"** Wait a minute! They say Jesus was a fisher of men, and all those Jesus people have fish on their car. If fish make you gay, then… Jesus was gay! ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/60 "2003-05-31T07:58:47Z")
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