# Finding Nemo turning kids on to lesbianism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599 "2003-05-30T18:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/61 "2003-05-31T08:09:12Z")
> [@](#): > > “Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will make you fishers of men.” --Mark 1:17 > [@](#): > > He said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish. > > Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, “It is the Lord,” he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water. --John 21:6-7 > [@](#): > > Jesus said to them, “When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter the kingdom.” --The Gospel of Thomas ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/62 "2003-05-31T08:14:43Z")
Almost forgot: > [@](#): > > And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: > And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked. > And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes. —Mark 14:51-53 ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/63 "2003-05-31T08:23:13Z")
I know the topic has already long gone off into different territory, but I just thought I’d add that Disney has pretty much no input into what Pixar do. They merely distribute, because the original Toy Story needed some backup funds and distributors. So due to a nasty contract, Disney gets to have their name plastered all over a gem of a product that really has nothing at all to do with them. ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/64 "2003-05-31T10:20:35Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\* Jesus said to them, “When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter the kingdom.” --The Gospel of Thomas_\* Maybe it’s because I’ve had a few drinks, but that doesn’t make any fucking sense. I mean, if you can’t draw it in Pictionary, then it’s probably too complicated to use as a religion. ---
**Author:** ![ageless6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@ageless6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ageless6)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/65 "2003-05-31T11:16:12Z")
:: Puff, puff, puff :: Sorry I’m late…so, lesbian casting,eh? I have to say I’m against it. I never liked midget tossing, either. And have you seen the attitudes on some of those lesbians. I’d hate to try casting one! You’d likely get a knuckle sandwich for that effort. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/66 "2003-05-31T11:31:55Z")
Just wanted to pop in and say that I took my short guy to go see this last night (his first movie ever!) and I thought Ellen did an _incredible_ job. Lots of cartoon voices just roll in one ear and out the other–leaving you to depend on the visuals for the character. Not so with this one. Dory was, yes, I’ll say it–fabulous! Very well done. Apparently that whole digging chicks thing doesn’t have much to do with one’s aptitude for a given task. Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/67 "2003-05-31T11:58:57Z")
Will I become a lesbian in a man’s body if I watch? I guess I’d at least get a spot on Oprah ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/68 "2003-05-31T12:16:06Z")
**Larry** , my point is that even the most obvious bias has absolutely zilch to do with evaluating the argument itself. If we take any personal interest or bias into account, we would be committing the genetic fallacy of faulting an argument based on the objectives of the one advancing it. The argument in question is riddled with holes, we needn’t resort to guilt by association to condemn it. Any agenda at the website is totally irrelevant to the specific issue at hand, which is the argument that the voice talent of a homosexual actor that no kid is likely to be familiar with will somehow “corrupt” the sexuality of our youth. (Again, this is the sort of thing that would be more enforceable in GD, but as a pure rule of evaluating an argument it holds here as well, and is IMHO worth pointing out.) BTW, if you’re attempting with your Bible quotes to steer this thread towards a more general thread about homosexuality, don’t bother. That topic’s so old around here, it’s got whiskers on it, and it surely doesn’t need to be brought in when the stimulus (the anti-Ellen article in question) is so profoundly weak. Just dismiss it and move on. ---
**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/69 "2003-05-31T12:37:31Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Chimera_ > Cue mental image of a bouncing, flamingly gay Gandalf… Can we get some sequins and maybe a bright pink feather boa to go with that flowing white robe, please?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/70 "2003-05-31T12:47:06Z")
Quoting the Producers: We just want to get the all the Jews and homosexuals out of the theatre. If you get all the Jews and homosexuals out of the theatre, you have no theatre. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/71 "2003-05-31T13:20:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chimera \* > \*\*Cue mental image of a bouncing, flamingly gay Gandalf… > 😃 \*\* Yes, but Legolas is still the prettiest. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/72 "2003-05-31T13:39:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\*Nevermind that, what were all those gay men doing in that net?! \*\* Jesus was trolling! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/73 "2003-05-31T13:53:26Z")
GMRyujin, read the FAQ. If you have reason to believe that a god is trolling, you don’t accuse him or her in public. You report the post to the Mods, and let them sit in judgement. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/74 "2003-05-31T15:02:45Z")
I am a Christian Rightist who has a lesbian friend and I plan to see FINDING NEMO now just because! Btw, the Ellen DeG memory-impaired fish thing is also an old joke of hers- perhaps even the inspiration for Ani’s song. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/75 "2003-05-31T15:05:44Z")
10% of us are lesbians, and the other 90% are lying. Or is that vampires? I can never remember. Una ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/76 "2003-05-31T15:06:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by robertliguori \* > \*\*GMRyujin, read the FAQ. If you have reason to believe that a god is trolling, you don’t accuse him or her in public. You report the post to the Mods, and let them sit in judgement. \*\* _clicks Report This Son of God to a Moderator_ ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/77 "2003-05-31T15:10:11Z")
> **[Finding Nemo About Finding a Hero](https://www.crosswalk.com/culture/features/finding-nemo-movie-review-1202837.html)** > > An old favorite returns to the big screen in the 3D format that it was begging to be shown in all along. Here's our original 2003 review. The Crosswalk reviewer Holly McClure (relation to Troy?!?_L_) loved FINDING NEMO & had good stuff to say about Ellen also. Btw, Ralph Winter- Executive Producer of both XMen films is a Christian- & I think it’s great that Alan (is he just gay or polymorpheously perverse?_L_) portrays the one really Christian X-Man. ---
**Author:** ![sickboy51](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@sickboy51](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sickboy51)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/78 "2003-05-31T15:27:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TaxGuy \* > \*\*Could you describe what one of those “kinds of situations” is like Mr. Mudd? I don’t know what you mean. > > The problem I have with the story is that they think Disney casted a lesbian on purpose just to piss off the religious right. The POV in the article not-so-subtly implies that everything that is done to piss off the religious right was intentionally done to do so, which is BS. \*\* Anything iontended to piss the religios right is right for me. Down with religion!!! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/79 "2003-05-31T18:21:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*RexDart: \*\*Any agenda at the website is totally irrelevant to the specific issue at hand, which is the argument that the voice talent of a homosexual actor that no kid is likely to be familiar with will somehow “corrupt” the sexuality of our youth. Ah, now I see the source of confusion here. I totally missed the part where **jeevmon** defined the focus and breadth of this thread, and assigned you as an arbiter to keep it on track. Aw, that sounds snarkier than is strictly necessary. We’re clearly on the same page about the strength of the ‘argument’ presented in the linked article, **RexDart**. If we limited posts in this thread to commentary about the validity of the viewpoint expressed there, it would sink like a stone. What’s to say? The fellow’s a bigoted idiot. Confining ourselves to considering the one article without reference to the context in which it is presented gives it a lot more weight to it than it deserves. **TaxGuy** ’s observation that another article with an anti-gay bias, which contains _in its first sentence_ a logical absurdity so _absoludicrously_ ridiculous, nicely demonstrates that the source website expects their target demographic to be able to effortlessly bypass the most basic functions of reason in order to be able to absorb the opinions in the article without it triggering some sort of aneurism based on the incomprehensible level of stupidity that its premises are predicated on. You seem to have arbitrarily determined that this thread exists to debate the validity or lack thereof of the idea that Ellen DeGeneres is an inappropriate casting choice for an animated film, and the only significance that its location in the Pit holds is that there is, regrettably, a more relaxed set of rules with which we are allowed to approach the problem. The thing is, there’s no debate or argument here at all. It’s more of a _“Hey! Look at this unbelievable idiot!” “My god, there’s a whole herd of 'em!” “Let’s point and laugh!”_ sort of thing. The forum description does _not_ say ‘a more informal place to debate the specifics of a particular question at hand, in which you have the luxury of interjecting a bit of profanity’, it says, ‘If you gotta flame, do it here.’ So, here we are, happy as clams, flaming. > [@](#): > > BTW, if you’re attempting with your Bible quotes to steer this thread towards a more general thread about homosexuality, don’t bother. WTF? No, dear, that’s just a bit of punning fun. How do you imagine that any of those quotes have any actual relevance to homosexuality? Or do you just think that _I_ might be able to believe something that silly? Nope, just riffing on the jokes that **GMRyujin** and **iampunha** had made. You know-- fun. **FriarTed** , thanks for the link to Holly McClure’s review of _Finding Nemo_ – it’s nice to see that there is a voice of reason at [Crosswalks.com](http://Crosswalks.com) – I looked at her review of _The Matrix: Reloaded_, too, and I like what she has to say. Someone get that woman a bullhorn! > [@](#): > > **sickboy51** : Anything iontended to piss the religios right is right for me. Down with religion!!! Awww, wookit the widdle iwwiterate bigot. How _cute_. :squish: :wipe: ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599/80 "2003-05-31T19:32:17Z")
God, if this is the religious right’s response to **Finding Nemo** , I can’t wait what they’ll have to say about **Sinbad**. “Brad Pitt provides the voice for the title character. Upon leaving the theater, I realized that each of my three daughters was now noticably pregnant.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-nemo-turning-kids-on-to-lesbianism/178599.md?page=5)